Scholars what are your thoughts?

[Junkboy]

With the clear decision that every team should have AST/AST and PLD/PLD, best shields are with Astros, across the board nerfes, but worst of all our playstyle was butchered.

I could deal with either nerfed to the ground or full playstyle changes but not both. The losses of the dots and the useless change to stuff like SF is completely over the top and useless. So now when a bad tank moves stuff out of SF im the one that gets screwed because he sucks? Before I could at least swiftcast and recast but now it\\'s worst with that cd. Bane nerf worst than Flare nerf what!? And I\\'m losing dots because awful healers couldn\\'t stance dance while managing them?

Wait, wait, wait, so adlo cost more than aspected benefic, has a cast time vs insta cast, and shields for less!? Bio gets upgraded from 40 potency to bio II at 35 potency.... Que? Lucid dreaming why? Give whms back SOS and leave my costs as well as aetherflow MP alone.

[Junkboy]

What did poor eos do to get embrace and fey halved? Now that I have less to do because my MP got screwed for NO reason, I have extra time because I'm not casting dots or bane, I'll have plenty of time to cure now and make better use of fey.....

What are you guys planning to do? PLD was my main before I realized how much more important healers where to the group and switched so thinking of going there. Besides with massive PLD buffs while staying fun it seems like the only choice. Though I really enjoyed Nin and Bard so maybe those two could be fun. Not a huge fan of Sam but having cool utility and fun play style Red looks incredibly fun while having a raise so I can in part still support the team in a bigger sense that just dps.

Give your thoughts on SCH as well.

[Starflake]

I decided to main White Mage just now. It's disgusting what they did to Scholar. Only when Strategem proves to not be as garbage as people are speculating I will come back to the class.

[PaulH]

I am going to wait feedback from the community because I feel it is too early to say what the impact just purely off release notes. I think it reads like a lot of nerf and a change in play style but it doesn't mean it is, everything has been changed so how it reads and plays are two different things.

I am trying to be calm here and practical but I have had this sinking feeling since the job details came to light that I would not like where it is going but it needs to be backed up by tangibility I think I will continue with tank for now.

Lets think happy thoughts and hopefully things will seem alright.

:-)

[Alphras]

It seems they gutted scholar. At least for dungeons.

I certainly wouldn't like seeing one in my daily dungeons when I am playing tank.

[Rawrz]

Gutted. Nerfed. Dead Fish playstyle. Little Brother Ast can do it better.

Leaving it to rot, until some decent changes are made to address AOE and to provide solid opportunities to use OGCD. Maybe 5.0 will offer fairy swapping mechanics and more pet skills/traits?

I'm alright with the removal of Virus. I'm alright with the Eos nerf.

The overall feel though is that SCH is going to have a hard time with mp management and have a very basic dps rotation. Our effecient, low costing, DOTS are gone. More nuking means less MP. Ironic how the class with the most DOTS suddenly became the healer with the worst DoTs. They had always been weaker, but their combine strengt helped to balance the other healer's nukes. Mp wise its going to be a mess. SCH will have to elect to Energy Drain every aetherflow stack we get and pray for the crappy proc, just to not be a reincarnated 4.0's WHM mana situation. Adlo's mp going up, without an increase in utility or cast time exasperates the issue. Fairy will have a very similar potency to regen and aspected benefic. She is going to heal 20% less embrace wise. Thats potentially, 20% more healing SCHs will have to do. SCH needed a decrease in MP costs for their healing spells, not an increase. The fact that Combust II had its mp cost reduced that makes me cynically laugh.

[OcieKo]

WHM won the DPS and MP efficiency races hard so far. Adlo was already the most expensive single target heal in the game and its getting worse. ABene is getting hit by increased MP cost too but it was at least still 20% behind Adlo tho. The Regen being cheaper than ever, and the people not complaining about using basic heals get theirs untouched. After all the WHM crying, I'd still say SCH lost 4.0 out of the healers.

Also does anyone else find it funny that they removed Miasma II then gave you Miasma III.

[Shikiseki]

That what pissed me off during the first noct Aspected Benefic buff is that Ast suddenly can almost shield more efficiently than Scholar, which used to be his specialty. But now it's just disgusting, especially the increased Adlo mp cost (which were further bumped according to the job guide).

What irks me the most though is the seemingly contradicting skillset the scholar seem to be getting. It started with dissipation, continues with the fey link - it's nice to link the fairy to someone but this will set the skill roof ridiculously high. You'll have to micromanage like a top manager to be efficient while others can do the same with less effort, especially noct AST.

But I think Scholars still shine during raids - with such a wide array of skills, they have the tools for seemingly EVERY occasion. Let's be real here, a top scholar will still trash both other healers into the ground.

The biggest mistake with AST was locking the stances during battle - they wouldn't have needed all those buffs they received if they could switch midbattle imo.

[OcieKo]

That what pissed me off during the first noct Aspected Benefic buff is that Ast suddenly can almost shield more efficiently than Scholar, which used to be his specialty. But now it's just disgusting, especially the increased Adlo mp cost (which were further bumped according to the job guide).

Its going to boil down to how big the MP cost increases were to each. Only way its balancing is if ABene got hit at least a little harder. Damn regen being super cheap still...

[Amenako]

i really really am annoyed at how they butchered SCH. I agree with everyone or every SCH that will come and post that as much as all the WHM's complained the SCH was the one that took the biggest hit. SE literally hit everything a SCH does, lowered our AOE damage, increased adlo mp cost with no like higher potency, atherflow fucking sucks really 10% wtf??? we already have a hard time fucking getting mana if we dont have to use the stacks for heals. EOS got hit, like wtf? what why? we already have shitty heals now your going to screw over the one that balanced our heals?
all this is crap, i would rather take our old shit back and throw away all the new stuff i don't care if chain stratgem is pretty good, that does not warrant us being shit on in every way here