How are Tanks holding up from PLD WAR DRK

[Vurtney]

Lack of Flash as a Warrior really made me rethink my trash handling and especially the opener. Personally i'm always pooling my Beast Cauge for the next trash pack so i have always at least one Steel Cyclone as an opener. It really just comes down to resource management and thinking ahead.

[Nuclearducky]

Has anyone been toying with dropping Grit to use Blood Weapon at max level? My main difficulty so far has simply been MP regen, now that BP is... kinda shoddy. Is dropping tank stance for 15s to replenish a viable approach instead?

If you feel safe enough to do it, blood weapon, delirium and AD or SE spam is probably your way to go. Make sure you drop a salted earth as well so you can take advantage of that damage bonus.

[saber_alter]

Been playing WAR since 2.0 and loved him through 3.xx Now though... I think I underestimated the loss of a 360 degree enmity move(flash).
Big pulls are tough to grab as the Overpower cone needs to be positioned properly before moving on. Mine used to be axe throw and then flash as I run through to the next set of mobs. I find myself slowing down and losing a couple rotations to keep aggro on the big pulls (overpower interrupts combos)
Can some folks doing well with WAR help a guy out? What is your pulling habit?

from my understanding because of the change to how stack work you can effectively pull+steel cyclone every time. we lost flash, but now we can effectively do any of our resource abilities multiple times in a row.

[Xerxus___]

Just want to say thank you to all who have written in this forum that u are interested in what my titel said and that u help each other out in my topic, i know for some its a normal day to day basis thing. But still, i appreciate that i dont see provocation or anything else in this forum, thank you.

[Achelon]

Anyone using Ultimatum? The new AoE Provoke we got? Was thinking on using it or at least trying, but the 90s CD seems to high for me...
I'm WAR btw.

[Xerxus___]

[QUOTE=Mnemosynia;4214707]As of now the consensus is that WARS are nolonger the best at everything, PLD got buffed to hell so they are great currently the best tank, DRK got nerfed to IMO unplayable status. Enmity Generation feels alot weaker and aoe pulling is alot harder as well give that enmity generation is alot lower. Tank stance is becoming more and more mandatory as well theres less stance dancing you should check the forums and reddit theres alot of detailed replies if you want more info./QUOTE]

I purposely asked here on a one to one conversation as like this I can see how we are holding up, but this topic is more how u guys feel as i always say, tanks are one big familly offside from rivalry, we keep everything alive, but thanks ill check other forums out how people feel about tank atm.

[Tattsuo]

I played Drk at HW launch and played it through all of Midas Gordias and Creator Savage, all the things that drew me to it are gone. Its slow and clunky without all the off gcd's. Im not sure what was done to aggro but im having huge problems holding aggro. The new kit seems to want me to stance dance less and stay in grit. The blackest knight with a white mage's divine benison will not proc, and result in me receiving no blood gauge so i waste a dark arts amount of mana. Dark is too weak compared to paladin which is a lot more damage with none of the risks and 0 consequences since they can get bard mana back to spam holy spirit all day and drk cant get bard mana. Blood price gives a laughable amount of mana back. Also i would like to know what kind of joke Quietus is, I thought they were suppose to thin the less used abilities, not give me more. I dont even have it on my bar. I dont find DRK fun anymore. I will still play it in hopes for improvements in the future.
#bring scourge back

[Mnemosynia]

I purposely asked here on a one to one conversation as like this I can see how we are holding up, but this topic is more how u guys feel as i always say, tanks are one big familly offside from rivalry, we keep everything alive, but thanks ill check other forums out how people feel about tank atm.

You do know i answered your question in the same post and said if you wanted more detailed responses there around. I'm not sure if your thanking me or trying to correct me for being of topic or something? But if you at the forums you can easily tell DRKs are not happy at all atm.

[Xerxus___]

You do know i answered your question in the same post and said if you wanted more detailed responses there around. I'm not sure if your thanking me or trying to correct me for being of topic or something? But if you at the forums you can easily tell DRKs are not happy at all atm.

Im thanking you.

[Kyt]

Struggling to get the feel for any changes there might be in PLD rotation.Doesn't seem too much different overall. Trying to find ways to fit the new abilities in.

The new paladin rotation is pretty awesome honestly, and it has changed quite a bit. For trash pulls with 3+ mobs it's still the standard scorn flash then the new aoe ability a couple times, rotate between mobs doing halone combos so you don't lose threat, but for single target and bosses we have a 2 phase dps system now where you start the fight scorn, spirits within, 1 halone combo and then you hit requiescat into dumping your entire MP pool via holy spirit (5 casts) - you CAN swap to sword oath and pop a ramparte or something here for higher dps but if you're doing current content probably not the best idea. Then your downtime is riot blade combo and shelltron to regain mana before requiescat comes back up. Rinse and repeat. You don't have requiescat yet but it's essentially the same.