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  1. #11
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    Earthly star is fine, but the lord and lady are missing....something...

    Though i suppose minor arcana was probably just intended as a glorified card dump, anyhow.

    Fishing for a balance or arrow, but keep getting spires/ewers/spears/boles? Minor arcana so it can be a little less useless! I wish they'd adjust the RNG of it so you'd get the lord more in the open world and the lady more in duties. The damage from the lord is negligible in a duty, and the healing from the lady is not needed out in the world.
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  2. #12
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    Dandelion Mariposa
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    Lord of crowns is an attack card... its stronger than malefic III... lol its out strongest single hit attack.
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  3. #13
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaidPower View Post
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    But the new skill Lord of Crowns look like it's useless because the potency is very low at single target.
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    >.>
    It's the highest single target DPS spell any healer has in the game, period.
    It's completely free, OGCD and is obtained by using cards you don't want to use anyway.

    How in the world is this a bad thing?

    Honestly, and I know this is a tad bit unfair, but I roll my eyes every an AST complains about something feeling too weak, when they're the strongest healer in the game by far...
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Earthly star is fine, but the lord and lady are missing....something...

    Though i suppose minor arcana was probably just intended as a glorified card dump, anyhow.

    Fishing for a balance or arrow, but keep getting spires/ewers/spears/boles? Minor arcana so it can be a little less useless! I wish they'd adjust the RNG of it so you'd get the lord more in the open world and the lady more in duties. The damage from the lord is negligible in a duty, and the healing from the lady is not needed out in the world.
    They are literally free. "Minor arcana so it can be a little less useless!" Are you kidding me?

    300 potency oGCD attack is NOT weak. It doesn't matter how you try to spin it. It is never useless.

    A 500 potency oGCD heal on top of what you already have is a bit unnecessary but its not useless. If you get it out in the world just use it to open up your minor arcana.

    AST is far and away the best healer right now, and with Minor arcana and Earthly Star they have little to no weakness. Everything they have is useful, and even a Spear card has a use now.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivxkobe View Post
    They are literally free. "Minor arcana so it can be a little less useless!" Are you kidding me?

    300 potency oGCD attack is NOT weak. It doesn't matter how you try to spin it. It is never useless.

    A 500 potency oGCD heal on top of what you already have is a bit unnecessary but its not useless. If you get it out in the world just use it to open up your minor arcana.

    AST is far and away the best healer right now, and with Minor arcana and Earthly Star they have little to no weakness. Everything they have is useful, and even a Spear card has a use now.
    I never claimed they were weak, i just said they were missing something. The fact that they are just a solid heal/damage feels weird relative to the rest of the ast's kit.

    However it IS a glorified card dump so the cards you don't need don't have to be undrawn. It's not a super special god ability like people seem to think.
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  6. #16
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I never claimed they were weak, i just said they were missing something. The fact that they are just a solid heal/damage feels weird relative to the rest of the ast's kit.

    However it IS a glorified card dump so the cards you don't need don't have to be undrawn. It's not a super special god ability like people seem to think.
    AST already had all the special god abilities. These are just filling small holes in their toolkits that pretty much cover all of AST's bases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    In 3.x, Cover was useless and everyone wanted a gap closer. In 4.x, gap closers are useless and everyone wants Cover.

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    Uriel Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I never claimed they were weak, i just said they were missing something. The fact that they are just a solid heal/damage feels weird relative to the rest of the ast's kit.

    However it IS a glorified card dump so the cards you don't need don't have to be undrawn. It's not a super special god ability like people seem to think.
    Missing what though? More utility? Less RNG? All you clearly want is to make them better, which would in turn make AST better. AST doesn't need buffs, and having an ability that feels like it's "missing something" is hardly worth complaining about.
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  8. #18
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I never claimed they were weak, i just said they were missing something. The fact that they are just a solid heal/damage feels weird relative to the rest of the ast's kit.

    However it IS a glorified card dump so the cards you don't need don't have to be undrawn. It's not a super special god ability like people seem to think.
    I don't think anyone claims it to be the best thing ever, but it's completely free, obtained from a card you would have tossed anyway, and even with RNG, it's a free instant heal, or a free nuke. There's is literally no downsides to this, much like the rest of ASTs kit. Absolutely no downsides, I'd actually argue that AST is flawless as a healer.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I never claimed they were weak...
    You claimed Lord is negligible in duties which is akin to saying it's weak. If it's negligible then Malefic III and Stone IV are negligible. They aren't but you don't seem to look at the kit as a whole, instead just looking at these minor Arcana as something that should be more, even if they are already good as they are. They don't need to do more, because AST already does everything a healer needs and then some. No one is claiming they are GOD like.
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  10. #20
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    My only issue with these these abilities is that the ability really doesn't play nice with level sync.

    I'm pretty much using it in place of my old 3.x card click macro/undraw now. I absolutely don't hold onto either lord or lady and both will get burned pretty quickly, well within the 30 seconds it takes for me to pull another card. But when I get synced down to 65 or lower, it flat out doesn't work so I have to keep a second hotkey handy for undraw.

    The only solution that comes to mind is to use that protect macro for malefic/malefic II that used to do the rounds here. Clunky though, it goes against the streamlining ethic Stormblood bought and the fact that it didn't get bought up by the testing team further shows that SE really don't have a handle on healer gameplay =/
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