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  1. #1
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    MaidPower's Avatar
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    Vortenia Chalcanthite
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    Gungnir
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    Dragoon Lv 60

    Am I the only one who doesn't like AST's Lord of Crowns and other change?

    I play AST as my primary healer since it came out, it is very fun and good support.
    But the new skill Lord of Crowns look like it's useless because the potency is very low at single target.
    I think it would be better to change to AOE regeneration or single damage with higher potency(500+ would be good ), so it can take effect to the boss with 2% hp left, when there are only tank and healer left in the extreme trial, either random stack-able buff is fine.

    The Lady of Crowns is acceptable for me.

    Another thing is Earthly star, I wold love it if it can deliver healing wave for both 2times (after Earthly/Giant Dominance end), but effect fade out after execute Stellar Detonation.

    Hope some developer teams would read this post.

    Finally,
    I do support these threads too:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-Arcana-Gauge
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...need-this-Buff
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Lord of Crowns is a potency of 300, which is double the strength of Energy Drain (150) and the equivalent of SMN's Fester if used while two DoTs are on the target (300, max strength of effect). It's pretty decent, really.

    Earthly Star, by default, is already a more powerful version of Indomitability even if you pop it immediately (540 pot ES vs 400 pot indom and 300 heal pot on Assize). Given it shares the same cooldown as Assize (which is double that of indom), making it a double pulse would be incredibly overpowered, and its potency would need to be drastically halved to compensate. I'm not sure people would like that.
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 06-19-2017 at 05:20 AM.

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    Estellise Valesti
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    300 is 50 higher than Stone IV so... don't really know why you are complaining.

    Earthly Star is a very strong AoE heal. Again don't know why you are complaining.

    Seems rather strange to complain that something is weak about an AST, since it is easily the best healer right. They should buff AST to curb even further ahead?
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 06-19-2017 at 05:29 AM.

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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaidPower View Post

    Finally,
    I do support these threads too:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...need-this-Buff
    Wait what? You are joking right? How's complaining bout the by far most overpowered SB job supporting the topic above? Never thought someone would even think about complaining bout Asts... in this tier... well this comm is always good for a surprise...

    For the topic question yeah most probably just a "yes..."
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-19-2017 at 08:49 AM.

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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Just because AST might be the flavor of the month for healers right now doesn't mean it doesn't have problems, though ours are generally design, and I think that's what she is saying. The DESIGN of the abilities may feel off.

    I think Lord/Lady are fine, I'd favor a slight potency reduction on Earthly Star, but I can't really weigh in much beyond that because I can't effing log in to level up and GET the new abilities to play with.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Well yeah maybe it's not 100% perfect (nothing is "perfect" if you search long enough there will always be things which can be improved) but Asts are by far the last cls which should complain atm .___.

    I think it would be better to change to AOE regeneration or single damage with higher potency(500+ would be good ) (...) either random stack-able buff is fine.
    Honestly this doesnt sound like "design" more like a wishful thinking of even more overbuffing... : /
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-19-2017 at 08:57 AM.

  7. #7
    Player
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    Vortenia Chalcanthite
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    My bad, I didn't research about the other classes yet.

    So, now I can see it's really overpower.
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    Nocturnia Uzuki
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I really like Earthly Star. I do think the heal might be a bit too strong, though. As is, I can essentially full-heal the party after big hits solo. I was using it a lot in Sasano earlier. Pre-cast Earthly, then wait for enemy AoE, precast Helios into Giant Dominance detonation. As for Lord/Lady, I haven't quite made it there yet, but I can't say I'm that excited for those cards. Lord, especially, since it's just extra damage and I don't care much for that, especially since it sounds like we can't choose which of the two cards we get. So basically if you're DPSing and you pull Lady, it's useless. If you need a heal and you pull Lord, it's useless. Not a fan of that system.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki View Post
    So basically if you're DPSing and you pull Lady, it's useless. If you need a heal and you pull Lord, it's useless. Not a fan of that system.
    It's not really useless, since AFAIK once you convert an arcana into Lord or Lady it sticks there for whenever you want to use it, meaning it doesn't have a timer that makes it expire. At least there's nothing that suggests so in the tooltip, so if you pull a Lady you just pulled a free Lustrate which you can store, which is an effect that is much better than having to waste a Draw cooldown in nothing.

    Minor Arcana are basically a way to efficiently get rid of cards you don't want to use, transforming them into free DPS or healing, neither of which consume a GCD or MP, making this addition the final perfecting point and cherry on top for the Arcana system.

    Earthly Star, similarly, fills in the only hole in AST's tool kit, which was burst AoE healing. AST is literally perfect now in terms of weaknesses: the job has none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    In 3.x, Cover was useless and everyone wanted a gap closer. In 4.x, gap closers are useless and everyone wants Cover.

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    Shiru Elysia
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    Ast has nothing to complain about.

    And I love Astrologian, but just, shhh.
    300 potency for a dps card is more than malefic III so it's definitly enough.

    Earthly Star is an incridibly good heal for a 1 min CD so no.

    Come one...
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