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  1. #11
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    Mnemosynia's Avatar
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    Lilith Pendragon
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdyer View Post
    One thing the paladins can't do as well as the other tanks is aoe damage. Drk has much better sustain on large pulls and War will beat in aoe damage with 6 steel cyclones.
    Doesn't matter aslong as they can hold aggro the group will cover the loses, they may have slightly less power in aoe pulls but given they can manage the emnity far better and have the best mitigation will do it, it will leave healers with more time to aoe which maybe a dps increase based on how good your healer is.
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  2. #12
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdyer View Post
    One thing the paladins can't do as well as the other tanks is aoe damage. Drk has much better sustain on large pulls and War will beat in aoe damage with 6 steel cyclones.
    Warrior can do six steels only six decimates
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  3. #13
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    Baci Asciar
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    Once again another thread is made using data from the media tour. Yes, I'm aware of the spreadsheet that showed Paladins having a higher overall Potency. But that's kind of pointless now considering redditers are now picking apart the actual patch itself as we speak. The doom and gloom is pretty silly when the data is about to be changed any hour now.

    Anyone that thinks Paladins will retain the highest DPS of the three tanks when the servers go live hasn't been playing this game for very long. [Posted by a career Paladin.]
    Actually, not much changed since the media tour
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  4. #14
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    SyzzleSpark's Avatar
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    Once again another thread is made using data from the media tour. Yes, I'm aware of the spreadsheet that showed Paladins having a higher overall Potency. But that's kind of pointless now considering redditers are now picking apart the actual patch itself as we speak. The doom and gloom is pretty silly when the data is about to be changed any hour now.

    Anyone that thinks Paladins will retain the highest DPS of the three tanks when the servers go live hasn't been playing this game for very long. [Posted by a career Paladin.]
    Actually data mining the patch is showing that very little has changed since the media tour, meaning that PLD is still grossly overtuned/overbuffed, and they have gutted WAR and eviscerated DRK so this thread actually brings up an extremely valid concern.
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  5. #15
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    Launched's Avatar
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    Rys Sol
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 90
    So much for being able to balance the existing tanks because they didn't add a new one.
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  6. #16
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    Illya's Avatar
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 80
    What if all tanks stood in solidarity and refused to level up their tanks in SB? Well, I mean the PLD players would probably level PLD just to spite the DRK and WAR players.

    But what if all DRK and WAR players purposely got together and refused to level their preferred tank classes the first month of SB, even switching to DPS classes, just to crash the tank population and drive dungeon queues upwards towards infinity?

    Could we force Squenix to take our complaints seriously and stop screwing around with tank balance and gameplay so clumsily and horribly all the damn time? The game design REQUIRES tanks. We have a lot of power and if we acted in unison we could grind the game to a halt until we got what we wanted.

    Tanks need a union, and we need to all go on strike!
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  7. #17
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    So much for being able to balance the existing tanks because they didn't add a new one.
    They had the opportunity. What they lacked was the competence.
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  8. #18
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    What if all tanks stood in solidarity and refused to level up their tanks in SB? Well, I mean the PLD players would probably level PLD just to spite the DRK and WAR players.

    But what if all DRK and WAR players purposely got together and refused to level their preferred tank classes the first month of SB, even switching to DPS classes, just to crash the tank population and drive dungeon queues upwards towards infinity?

    Could we force Squenix to take our complaints seriously and stop screwing around with tank balance and gameplay so clumsily and horribly all the damn time? The game design REQUIRES tanks. We have a lot of power and if we acted in unison we could grind the game to a halt until we got what we wanted.

    Tanks need a union, and we need to all go on strike!
    Wouldn't work because even if executed perfectly and everyone would agree to it. The largest portion of the playerbase doesn't even use the forums or reddit.

    While I'm starting to be sure that DRK and WAR will pale in comparison to a PLD I also think SE will have an Eye on that and do quick adjustments. They can't go back on their word now, they said they'd like to focus on the balance of the current tanks and healers now.
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  9. #19
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    Alduin Mik'tala
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Personally..... I feel they buffed paladin up past the other tanks to encourage people to play it. Then when the player numbers look right they nerf paladin to be more in line with the other tanks.
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  10. #20
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    Actually data mining the patch is showing that very little has changed since the media tour, meaning that PLD is still grossly overtuned/overbuffed, and they have gutted WAR and eviscerated DRK so this thread actually brings up an extremely valid concern.
    Sadly you're correct, i'm still gonna level Drk just because i've played it for so long but I will level Pld as my second class, these are valid concerns and I hope SE actually looks at the feedback instead of just telling us to "calm down".
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