"Firecrest and glass pumpkin are now available for purchase"

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Is actually playing the game not enough for people without a reward anymore? Like do you really need an e-peen booster shitty housing item to show off to people on your lawn that says you did it?

If you sink 100 hours into something, your probably going to want something cool to show for it. And when you don't get anything cool, a lot of people are going to say "why bother"

For anyone that did get to level 200 and sees this, many will be discouraged from doing the next PotD.

[SuzakuCMX]

If you sink 100 hours into something, your probably going to want something cool to show for it. And when you don't get anything cool, a lot of people are going to say "why bother"

That's called an external reward and means you don't actually enjoy what you're playing. It means don't play it. If you need an external reward for what you're doing then the answer is don't do it.

As for what you have to show for it, you got it for a whole year before anybody else. Good job. It's been a year. You saved a year on it and got to play with it for a year.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

That's called an external reward and means you don't actually enjoy what you're playing. It means don't play it. If you need an external reward for what you're doing then the answer is don't do it.

That's just silly. Thats like saying if you take the prizes away from a carnival game and you don't enjoy it anymore, then it was never fun to begin with. It was fun until you sucked all the prizes away...

I would love to see how many "casuals" would still play this game if content didn't drop glamour anymore. Or how many would be upset if they started giving out cash shop items for free every time it's a patch old. How many would still buy items from the cash shop at full price, if they knew the same stuff would be given out in a patch or two for 10% of the price.

This is part of the reason people's interest levels in FF14 are dropping off. At least for me, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I prob won't even bother doing 4.0s relic because i know they will end up nerfing it 100 times by the time 5.0 comes out. If I do it at all, I'll wait till it's been made trivial.

[HyoMinPark]

That's called an external reward and means you don't actually enjoy what you're playing. It means don't play it. If you need an external reward for what you're doing then the answer is don't do it.

As for what you have to show for it, you got it for a whole year before anybody else. Good job. It's been a year. You saved a year on it and got to play with it for a year.

Not everyone cleared Floor 200 on Day 1, and not everyone clears other content on Day 1. I just want to point that out. My point stands for any content: if people want the rewards from it, at least put in the effort to earn them. Don't expect them to just be handed to you.

I cleared Floor 200 literally 2 days ago. After many failed attempts. But I kept trying, I cleared, and I got my Firecrest from it. I plan to go in and clear it again. Why? Because I want to. Because it was fun.

Yeah that's basically what we did for the most part but sadly it wasn't enough, we even had flights going and saved up for smoother clear of 199, basically for almost all intensive purposes we had cleared.

I'm really sorry to hear about that. That's just rotten luck there. :c If you're ever looking for anyone to do a Floor 200 group though, provided I have the free save slots, I'm always willing to help. PotD is cross-server now with 4.0 release, so it should be easier to find a group and hopefully coordinate with them all. I'm honestly eager to get back in and work my way up to Floor 200 again; I thought it was a lot of fun getting there. And even with the frustration and the wipes, I still enjoyed the progression.

[Miste]

That's called an external reward and means you don't actually enjoy what you're playing. It means don't play it. If you need an external reward for what you're doing then the answer is don't do it.

Erm most MMO's have rewards for effort no matter if you enjoyed or didn't enjoy the content the natural state is to be rewarded for time/effort spent.

You spend time getting exp, you get rewarded with level ups and new abilities. You spend time getting tomes/tokens and you get gear/weapons as a reward. You spend time doing primal fights and you get weapons/tokens/mounts. You spend time doing savage raids you get the best item level gear for that patch cycle.

The whole FFXIV system is reward based so this is kinda....I mean external rewards are the normal baseline. I can't even think of a piece of content in FFXIV where it isn't "you do this, you get this"...Can you?

Everyone has different priorities and enjoy different aspects...you just need to think outside of your own personal views...

Person A likes the journey and doesn't care about rewards.
Person B likes both the journey and the rewards.
Person C likes the reward only so they do the journey, but it was mostly only for the reward and either disliked the journey or was neutral about the journey to get there.

You might think person C is silly or shouldn't do that, but that is what person C likes...so telling people to "just don't do it" is just such a waste of time. If they really liked and wanted the reward and that journey was the only way to get it...and they are willing to accept that and do it then they made that choice.

There are many different kinds of content in FFXIV which means some content you might end up doing just for the reward because you need or want it, while there is also plenty of other content you enjoy the journey and reward.

I personally don't like crafting very much, but I do it...because I appreciate the efficiency of having crafters readily available if I need them. So I want that aspect so I do it even though I don't care much for it.



As for this topic...I feel it is too soon to worry about this. The patch notes were vague and if I had to make an educated guess I am thinking you probably need to have cleared floor 200 at least once in order to purchase these items off the NPC...similar to some of the other items.

[Jandor]

That's called an external reward and means you don't actually enjoy what you're playing. It means don't play it. If you need an external reward for what you're doing then the answer is don't do it.

I enjoyed doing it (twice) and I enjoy the items I got for doing it. I can enjoy more than one thing for more than one reason.

I feel like I've fallen for bait...