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  1. #21
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    WellFooled's Avatar
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    Doranaux Wavemet
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    One of my biggest complaints, if not the biggest, with FFXIV is that it constantly invalidates our efforts and achievements. Slaved for more than a year on that relic weapon of yours? Fine work, but now it can be hammered together in a couple of weeks. Also we'll literally have you destroy that weapon for your Anima weapon which will also be tireless grind that we'll need later. Grinded treasure maps to find that really rare minion? We're now added that minion to three other pieces of content and the markets will be flooded with them in a week. That crazy hard extreme primal your FC organized every week for months to take down just once? Increasing ilvl will need it, but we'll also add an echo buff so it'll be no big thing for anyone to beat it.

    With very, very few exceptions there really are no lasting accomplishment s in FFXIV and I hate it. I feel our time spent in the game doesn't actually reward us with anything long lasting.
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  2. #22
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Won't this just discourage people from tackling the higher floors? It's already difficult for most people to get a group together for it due to scheduling conflicts, skill differences and a lack of enthusiasm on the part of many players. Eliminating the exclusivity of two of the rewards just strikes me as a strange decision. The game is in dire need of 'midcore' content and between this and Yoshi-P outright stating that there are no solid plans for what future 'midcore' content will be I'm pretty worried about the long term health of any content added to appease those of us who want content that fits that category.

    Worse yet, it risks creating a negative cycle. The higher floors for POTD are already fairly niche - if 'midcore' content is added and then later rendered obsolete then the developers may see the demand as lacking and not bother adding any more content along those lines. Still, I'll reserve my full judgement until the patch goes live since it could very well be a misunderstanding.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 06-16-2017 at 02:09 AM.

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    Ar'telan Qin
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    Omega
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    Fisher Lv 70
    I assumed it'd just mean you can buy them again if you'd already cleared, much like how the orchestrion rolls are locked by floor completion?

    If anyone can buy them that'd be... weird, and counterintuitive to having more folks attempt it.
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  4. #24
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    Thales Morocc
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    I don't think SE will allow just anyone to buy them, but rather limit the purchase on the fact that you cleared floor 200 or not, just how the ability to buy the rolls for Fog of Phantom and Notice of Death are limited for those who got to the 150 and 200 floors. It actually looks like a way to reduce the RNG on getting the firecrest and glass pumpkin, so that those who actually managed to beat floor 200 can have all the items.
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  5. #25
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Too much text
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  6. #26
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'm up for waiting and seeing, hoping it's a way for those who unlocked floor 200 to get the rewards or for those that got yet another pumpkin to swap it for a firecrest (or vice versa.)

    I suspect it will be that, SE has a track record of making it easier to get rewards from content as time goes on, but they still mostly like you to actually do the content. Like the Primal ponies for example, the punishing RNG was gradually reduced so that they drop all the time now, and the primals themselves are obviously a walkover unsynced, but you do still actually have to do the fight to get the mount.
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  7. #27
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Well well well, someone is on the other side of the fence now, what a shocker. They will prob cost too much anyways and I could never find 3 other people to static with so whatever I guess. I wish they did not static lock climbing 100+
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  8. #28
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Well well well, someone is on the other side of the fence now, what a shocker. They will prob cost too much anyways and I could never find 3 other people to static with so whatever I guess. I wish they did not static lock climbing 100+
    I didn't clear Floor 200 with my static. Since my static is a cross-server static.
    Floor 101+ was never locked behind statics; it was just locked behind premade parties, and after getting to Floor 200, I can understand why 101+ isn't puggable content, and why it shouldn't be. Finding people that want to do 101+ isn't really that difficult; just advertise for it, and I'm sure you can find at least 3 other people that want to accept said challenge.

    Also, not sure what "fence" you're talking about, but if you're here to start an argument, please leave.
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  9. #29
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    Athena Nightreaper
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    The only reason I validate myself buying these if I decide too, is the fact that I've been to 197-198 multiple times and always get screwed by gloom/no skills/no healing/no items even had all those at once before, without a way to remove them..but yeah I already knew this would bother people...it does suck a bit because I even wanted to work for it and it's clear by the start of this post how that went lol...edit if it is purchasable only for those who cleared floor 200 then -shrug- that's fair tbh lol
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  10. #30
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality View Post
    The only reason I validate myself buying these if I decide too, is the fact that I've been to 197-198 multiple times and always get screwed by gloom/no skills/no healing/no items even had all those at once before, without a way to remove them..but yeah I already knew this would bother people...it does suck a bit because I even wanted to work for it and it's clear by the start of this post how that went lol...edit if it is purchasable only for those who cleared floor 200 then -shrug- that's fair tbh lol
    I wiped myself a lot on those floors, but usually to unlucky trap triggers. What my group did was we basically saved our Serenity pomanders unless we hit a floor that was a combination of Gloom/Items Unavailable/Auto-Heal Disabled (unless we happened to find one in a coffer), so we went into 191 with 3 Serenity pomanders. Starting at 193, we also alternated between popping Sight and Safety pomanders for each floor, so that we would either see the traps, or not have to deal with them at all. We got lucky to land an additional Sight for floor 197 (because we were cautiously going through it without one due to miscalculation), and for 199, we actually ended up with the Gloom/No Items/No Auto-Heal floor effect (which we all just sat there and laughed about for a good minute because of course the last floor would throw us a curveball like that), and had 3 Serenity pomanders ready to use. So I'd recommend saving your Sight and Safety pomanders until Floor 194, and then alternate between activating one per floor all the way to 199. We tried to stay stocked up on as many pomanders as possible, and only popped crucial ones if we absolutely had to.

    On-topic: I'm really hoping it's a Glass Pumpkin --> Firecrest exchange, or something where people can only buy them if they've cleared Floor 200. I already know my rant and concerns are premature, and I don't have any issues admitting that they are. But it made me feel better to just rant about it, premature or not. If my rant was for nothing, well, it is what it is. I felt better just ranting about it, and some times that's just all you need. Now I'm just impatient and waiting for 2am PST so I can start Stormblood!
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 06-16-2017 at 02:48 AM.
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