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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
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    Honestly the WoL needs to be taken down a notch or two because the WoL is the biggest Mary Sue in FF14.

    Forget the other characters that have small amount of Mary Sue moments because with the WoL is constant supply of Mary Sue moments.

    As long anyone has the WoL on their side they are basically given a instant 100% chance at winning any fight becuase our character is the Warrior of Light who can beat anyone and anything in the end.

    Ishgard has a tournament against all three other Grand Companies? Bring the WoL to win!

    A Primal appeared and needs to be killed? Leave it to the WoL because he or she can kill it!

    Garleans invading a location and the forces can't hold them back? Send in the WoL to completely turn the entire battle into your favor in a heart beat!

    A Corrupt politician turns a entire city state against the WoL? No worries because he change his or her mind later because the WoL is Eorzea's nuclear deterrent against any threat!

    Majority of the story so far just keep hitting that "Send in the WoL because he or she can any global threat!" really makes the story stale when the WoL is literally the solution to everything. Makes me glad Nero actually brought this issue up with everyone.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 06-14-2017 at 07:03 AM.

  2. #112
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    To be fair, it's not always the case and it's obvious that our first trip into Ala Mihgo ends in failure.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    "Tataru: Basically the only one without any particular reason to die. So the least expected."

    And for that reason it would be the most impactful is she died.
    Just imagine. She comes to greet us (or something) and when we see each others across the road she gets shot/stabed/crushed by an ambush or something, before our very eyes and we can't do anything to stop it.
    She had done nothing wrong. She was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
    why would ther garls kill there best spy?


    Quote Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE View Post
    To be fair, it's not always the case and it's obvious that our first trip into Ala Mihgo ends in failure.
    correction: our 1st ASSAULT on ala mihgo ends in failure.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Forget the other characters that have small amount of Mary Sue moments because with the WoL is constant supply of Mary Sue moments.
    Until we enter a cutscene and suddenly can't do anything anymore except stretching our hand out and silently opening the mouth. In those moments, we watch a supposed "good friend" struggle against a lazorbolt for a good 30 seconds doing absolutely nothing, so we can then look all sad when they die.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Until we enter a cutscene and suddenly can't do anything anymore except stretching our hand out and silently opening the mouth. In those moments, we watch a supposed "good friend" struggle against a lazorbolt for a good 30 seconds doing absolutely nothing, so we can then look all sad when they die.
    You know the real reason why the WoL is so bland in cutscenes verses basically everyone else is so SE doesn't have to animate cutscenes for every job on every race.

    And it was more like 5 seconds but w/e. It's still a sore spot and baity.
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  6. #116
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    I've been saying since FFBE did the ff14 crossover event y'sholta is gonna die. All the FF14 6 star characters are dead but her lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post


    Alisae has red and Alphinaud has blue in both old and new gear. Alisae is also a Red Mage. I think their fate has been revealed long ago in this poem:



    Alisae will travel east with us and Alphinaud will be lost (dead or kidnapped?) in the western war. No idea what will happen to other characters though.
    I feel like looking at their colored outfits might be reading into something that isn't there, though I wouldn't mind if Alphinaud disappeared and Alisaie were more prominent in the story however it happens.

    FYI, the expansion titles (subtitles?) in Japanese also reference these colors. Heavensward is 蒼天のイシュガルド (azure skies of Ishgard) and 紅蓮のリベレーター (the crimson [lotus] liberator).
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  8. #118
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    I actually suspect Y'shtola the least because of the trailer. They also retconned her condition slightly. Instead of slowly draining her life force away until she dies, she is putting her body in intense stress to maintain her sight, and it will kill her if she continues. She'll probably have a story arc where she learns to do things without her eyes, or she'll learn a different way to see.

    The former seems weird anyway, as the entire conjurer quest line revolves around a little girl who drains her own life force to heal, and then learns to draw the aether from nature, rather than from herself, and the damage she did to herself was reversible by not continuing her old ways.

    Y'shtola is the poster child of this game, and she's this game's representative in the upcoming dissidia game. Revealing important deaths in a trailer is already a horrible way to advertise something, much worse when it's the character they use to market the game.
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    Last edited by Averax; 06-14-2017 at 11:42 AM.

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  10. #120
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Stuff about the player character being too strong
    You have to understand that this is an MMO. The genre has its limitations. You only control one character, which is your avatar with which you interact with everything and everyone else, and you have to have this character available for years. Maybe even a decade.

    You can't reduce the WoL into a catatonic vegetable like Cloud. And you cannot make wiping at a boss mandatory.
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