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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikoten View Post
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    Honestly the WoL needs to be taken down a notch or two because the WoL is the biggest Mary Sue in FF14.

    Forget the other characters that have small amount of Mary Sue moments because with the WoL is constant supply of Mary Sue moments.

    As long anyone has the WoL on their side they are basically given a instant 100% chance at winning any fight becuase our character is the Warrior of Light who can beat anyone and anything in the end.

    Ishgard has a tournament against all three other Grand Companies? Bring the WoL to win!

    A Primal appeared and needs to be killed? Leave it to the WoL because he or she can kill it!

    Garleans invading a location and the forces can't hold them back? Send in the WoL to completely turn the entire battle into your favor in a heart beat!

    A Corrupt politician turns a entire city state against the WoL? No worries because he change his or her mind later because the WoL is Eorzea's nuclear deterrent against any threat!

    Majority of the story so far just keep hitting that "Send in the WoL because he or she can any global threat!" really makes the story stale when the WoL is literally the solution to everything. Makes me glad Nero actually brought this issue up with everyone.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 06-14-2017 at 07:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Forget the other characters that have small amount of Mary Sue moments because with the WoL is constant supply of Mary Sue moments.
    Until we enter a cutscene and suddenly can't do anything anymore except stretching our hand out and silently opening the mouth. In those moments, we watch a supposed "good friend" struggle against a lazorbolt for a good 30 seconds doing absolutely nothing, so we can then look all sad when they die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Stuff about the player character being too strong
    You have to understand that this is an MMO. The genre has its limitations. You only control one character, which is your avatar with which you interact with everything and everyone else, and you have to have this character available for years. Maybe even a decade.

    You can't reduce the WoL into a catatonic vegetable like Cloud. And you cannot make wiping at a boss mandatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Until we enter a cutscene and suddenly can't do anything anymore except stretching our hand out and silently opening the mouth. In those moments, we watch a supposed "good friend" struggle against a lazorbolt for a good 30 seconds doing absolutely nothing, so we can then look all sad when they die.
    Is especially bad if you're a healer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    You have to understand that this is an MMO. The genre has its limitations.
    This reminds me of Chinese no effort at story cash grab mmos in which you're a filthy peasant until lv 10-15 and suddenly you hit immortal god errand extraordinaire. See that group of wandering immortal daemons? Kill em. I like the way favor shining on you is an actual plot point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
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    I am talking about story persepective not gameplay perspective.

    Story wise the WoL is basically more powerful than a God in Eorzea. None can be his or her equal and none would dare antagonise the WoL because he or she is Eorzea's Nuclear deterrent to any threat to Eorzea.

    Heck in Gaius's final moments he even said if the WoL wanted to he or she can basically take over all of Eorzea with his or her powers alone and no one will be able to stop the WoL from taking over Eorzea and become its ruler.

    The WoL can die at anytime like any other NPC and we have a lore "thing" called the Echo that can always bring the WoL back after death or reveal everything that the Player character experience was just a Echo of the WoL life that our character was experience in the WoL place similar to how 1.0 Echo acted to 1.0 player characters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    This reminds me of Chinese no effort at story cash grab mmos in which you're a filthy peasant until lv 10-15 and suddenly you hit immortal god errand extraordinaire. See that group of wandering immortal daemons? Kill em. I like the way favor shining on you is an actual plot point.
    That mostly the issue I see with how the WoL is handled. The characters in the story have forgotten the WoL is just like everyone else inside but just brush it off and treat him or her as a the solution to everything becuase the WoL is forever the only solution to everything.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 06-15-2017 at 01:46 AM.