Watching the Bahamut summon gave me an idea...

[Neela]

Why yes, you can.

<3 3k ruin & 14k AM finisher without party-buffs seem pretty okay for me - kind of a similar amount that a casual smn has now - the nerf-cries are over the top. We won't end up down, down the bottom line in the end ^^

Regarding Odin if he's sized like Bahamut sitting on Sleip wouldn't be to "chibi" for me... another idea which would be amazing is if Odin would be a single target LB3 beside Tera Flare for Aoe. But that would mean every other cls must get a single/aoe LB as well xD

[Silverquick]

<3 3k ruin & 14k AM finisher without party-buffs seem pretty okay for me - kind of a similar amount that a casual smn has now - the nerf-cries are over the top. We won't end up down, down the bottom line in the end ^^

You do realize that's in i290 gear not i275... right?

And I was seeing 2900 damage Ruin 3s IN Dreadwyrm... and the CRITs for ruin 3 were only 3900.

You realize right now the Crits for it in i270 are about 4700... not 3900... right?

So yeah we're looking at a massive Ruin 3 Nerf.

[Neela]

BlaBla

you still dont get it... but idm anymore even Mr. Happy said our Burst is going to raise drasticly so it doesnt matter what you think you are out of discussion. end of story.

[Silverquick]

you still dont get it... but idm anymore even Mr. Happy said our Burst is going to raise drasticly so it doesnt matter what you think you are out of discussion. end of story.

Yeah... Mr Happy doesn't play a Summoner... and directly said so... in case you missed it... he admitted he has no idea of how it plays regularly in his previous works.

Worse... and the reason I said you don't play a Summoner anymore... is that YOU should have KNOWN how much damage we currently do at 60th level and in ilvl 270...

And realized the footage you're looking at is done with a level 70 character and in i290 gear... and the damage is so weak it can't even compare to the current damage level at 60th in i270...

The Deathflare was the only thing that went up... and that's the only thing that DIDN'T get nerfed.

In other words... Summoner just took a MASSIVE DPS hit... and will likely be at the bottom of the pile of the other Caster jobs and not competetive.

If you still played a Summoner you'd have known that the minute you looked at that footage.