Yoshi P to Mr.Happy "Heal DPS is not mandatory and no expectation for Healer to DPS!"

[TamurilRains]

So a healer is expected to not only heal the DPS who stand in crap they shouldn't be standing in, but also to deal damage in order to make up for the lack of DPS those people are essentially not producing? I'm sorry but what I'm reading is that Yoshi. P has essentially said that the encounters are intended for healers to strictly heal and not deal damage, so basically what I take from this is, the only reason healers would need to deal damage is if DPS is slacking (or dead due to standing in too much crap). Let me put it to you this way, if DPS players were even capable of healing in a small way, would they be expected to heal others as well as deal damage? I highly doubt it.

TLDR; Sign up as a healer, you heal. Deal damage if you want and feel comfortable but I for one would not expect you to.

[Stormbad]

So a healer is expected to not only heal the DPS who stand in crap they shouldn't be standing in, but also to deal damage in order to make up for the lack of DPS those people are essentially not producing? I'm sorry but what I'm reading is that Yoshi. P has essentially said that the encounters are intended for healers to strictly heal and not deal damage, so basically what I take from this is, the only reason healers would need to deal damage is if DPS is slacking (or dead due to standing in too much crap). Let me put it to you this way, if DPS players were even capable of healing in a small way, would they be expected to heal others as well as deal damage? I highly doubt it.

TLDR; Sign up as a healer, you heal. Deal damage if you want and feel comfortable but I for one would not expect you to.

No, what he is saying is use up the 90-120 duty time limit, it's all yours.

[TamurilRains]

No, what he is saying is use up the 90-120 duty time limit, it's all yours.

If it takes that long without a healer DPSing then I'm sorry but your DPS is bad

[AnnieWaterflower]

If it takes that long without a healer DPSing then I'm sorry but your DPS is bad

LOL this is fun but true

[Arkdra]

So a healer is expected to not only heal the DPS who stand in crap they shouldn't be standing in, but also to deal damage in order to make up for the lack of DPS those people are essentially not producing?

I expect healers to do something with most of their gcd's, same as I would a dps or tank. This claim that healing is all the work a healer needs to do is spurious because it can require so little of your actual attention depending on what content you are doing.

[TamurilRains]

I expect healers to do something with most of their gcd's, same as I would a dps or tank. This claim that healing is all the work a healer needs to do is spurious because it can require so little of your actual attention depending on what content you are doing.

And here we go "it depends on the content" thanks so much for saying that! So now we have established that a healer DPSing is only circumstantial, what if said content is too much for the healer to cleric stance swap and they feel more comfortable healing? Seriously folks, this whole thing can be easily fixed. Make your own group and don't use the DF if you're going to be so picky about how others play!

[Alysrea]

And here we go "it depends on the content" thanks so much for saying that! So now we have established that a healer DPSing is only circumstantial, what if said content is too much for the healer to cleric stance swap and they feel more comfortable healing? Seriously folks, this whole thing can be easily fixed. Make your own group and don't use the DF if you're going to be so picky about how others play!

They are removing the requirement to have cleric stance active to be able to DPS, you will be able to do DPS and heal with no problems come storm blood, they are making quality of life changes so people CAN be more comfortable.
That being said in any circumstance trying it is the only way to actually get comfortable and if you resign yourself to never trying you are doing the other people you are playing with a diservice by not trying to give all you can.

[kattzkitti]

Moreover, the argument can go both ways. Want to have your own long expert roulette filled with people playing sub-optimally? Form your own party.

Except it doesn't. When you hit the queue up button in Duty Finder without a full premade group, you implicitly agree to the condition that you accept randoms and their playstyles into your duty. Period.

Except it is a rather common strategy to pull everything and then AoE them to oblivion to speed up runs. I am playing the game for what it is. Even right now in dungeons, I do mass pulls. Why? Because I legitimately enjoy it, it's my preferred play style as a tank, and it is more efficient. With the former two reasons being the main argument for Healers only healing. There's no difference other than I have the added reason of wanting to be efficient.

My comment was to show how easy it is to reverse the logic behind so many of these Healers only heal arguments.

Context and intent. Learn what these are, and then go back and re-read your post.

[missybee]

you implicitly agree to the condition that you accept randoms and their playstyles into your duty. Period.

So you are failing to see that can go both ways?

[kattzkitti]

So you are failing to see that can go both ways?

Why am I not surprised that you can't comprehend such a simple concept.