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  1. #11
    Player
    Ghald's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Wolf Ghaladia
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    I don't know about all of you, but what hurts me the most is the lack of flash. I love doing dungeons, and flash fills in the gap that WAR lacks, a spammable circular AoE to grab hate and bunch up trash. Overpower requires aiming and positioning. It's wonderful for when things are finally bunched up, but what about beforehand?
    I use Flash regularly too, it make good use of our MP that otherwise would be a waste of resource and it give me some time for TP regen, I've always either Brutal Swing or Flash during pacification.

    The list of removed/change skill set on my original post isn't all the change I'm not happy with. Inner Beast no longer heal for 100% of the damage anymore.
    (3)
    Common sense is not so common anymore.

  2. #12
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    Arcana's Avatar
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 66
    No one is happy with the changes in 4.0. No one tested any class and all i can read is a drama queen army in every class post. You should guys first try the changes and then make a real opinion.
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  3. #13
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Claire Pendragon
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    They changed guildhests so Lv11 is the max for Lv10 guildhests, and that locks u out of overpower. my friends starting fresh up, who cant leave Limsa to unlock GLA, were so confused how they were suppossed to hold hate on multiple enemies.

    Flash was at LEAST a way for non MRD mains to have AoE when they did finally level up MRD in Lv10 guildhests.

    Very minor issue by todays standards, but still an oversight they never fixed, and only made worse.
    (8)
    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  4. #14
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    aleph_null's Avatar
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    Character
    Aleph Alpha
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    No one is happy with the changes in 4.0. No one tested any class and all i can read is a drama queen army in every class post. You should guys first try the changes and then make a real opinion.
    Except you can tell a lot of stuff from the things we already know. You don't need to play the game to know whm's lily mechanic is terrible. You don't need to play the game to see why brd's utilities are really good. You don't need to play the game to know drk's new rotation will be simpler than their current one.

    You can use the tooltips of the skills to theorycraft your new rotation, calculate potencies, etc. Until those potencies are changed our opinions are as real as it can get. Not saying we know everything since there are other things we need to play the class to know, like animation locks, ability to multi weave ogcds etc, but saying that we don't know enough to form an opinion is just stupid. Of course the current opinions and theories are also subject to change.
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  5. #15
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    Elize's Avatar
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    Nov 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Croix Plainswalker
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    They changed guildhests so Lv11 is the max for Lv10 guildhests, and that locks u out of overpower. my friends starting fresh up, who cant leave Limsa to unlock GLA, were so confused how they were suppossed to hold hate on multiple enemies.

    Flash was at LEAST a way for non MRD mains to have AoE when they did finally level up MRD in Lv10 guildhests.

    Very minor issue by todays standards, but still an oversight they never fixed, and only made worse.
    Actually they fixed this very issue now, overpower is now a level 10 skill. Unleash and flash are level 6. How relevant this is is another topic.
    (4)

  6. #16
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    ChloeGrace's Avatar
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    Character
    Chloe Grace
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Silly warrior. Has bard 3.0 taught you nothing?
    Warrior has been the prima donna for almost 2 years - more than half the lifespan of the re-release.
    Now that your job is coming back down to eorzea, you're crying foul?
    Adapt, get used to it, or switch jobs.
    (11)

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  8. #17
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    MinhSa's Avatar
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    Character
    Jiraiya Sama
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeGrace View Post
    Warrior has been the prima donna for almost 2 years
    Adapt, get used to it, or switch jobs.
    We're not worried about viability or meta, personally the 1% edge for any class never bothered me in the first place. What does bother me is that warrior is losing what makes warrior a warrior, they're taking the fun and fluid aspects of the job away from it and turning it into a fell cleave bot meme. They're punishing warrior for switching stances and for being intuitive and proactive in both tanking and damaging. Warrior is losing all of their identity, the furious bloodthirsty berserker that controls the tide of battle is now the memecleaver. If warrior being needed in all parties worries you, you nerf their overall utility, not both utility and what makes the job fun. Just my two cents.
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    Last edited by MinhSa; 06-05-2017 at 11:51 PM.

  9. #18
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Tal Young
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MinhSa View Post
    ... turning it into a fell cleave bot meme.
    Think the community beat them to it there.
    (4)

  10. #19
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    aqskerorokero's Avatar
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    Character
    Aquis Onionslicer
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Hang on ok? PLD mains were not boycotting the job at 3.x right? Just because your favorite job gets a little weaker? than before (has to be demonstrated btw). All Pld mains endured this crap for about 2 years now.
    (3)

  11. #20
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Character
    Tal Young
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aqskerorokero View Post
    All Pld mains endured this crap for about 2 years now.
    I know its not right, but the prospect of getting 2 solid years of barging into every conversation about WAR to shout about how great PLD is sounds almost therapeutic.
    (10)
    Last edited by Jandor; 06-06-2017 at 09:14 PM.

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