DRK math for Media Tour information

[Decederes]

All of these issues coming out the last few days through theorycrafting and basic mathematics... why is there not more being done by SE to examine these jobs before launch like they are WHM? WAR having -access- to some CD's, albeit in a different stance, is still better than DRK's lack of CD's. BN, I am still sacking MP for a CD... and if it's true that the 50 blood doesn't proc unless the shield is used up then that could be 2400 MP wasted if poorly timed. WAR also gets their 6 fell cleaves...so I highly doubt their burst will suffer. Doesn't matter if we DA > SS > DA > SE or DA SE 2 combos in a row. It's the same potency, and you still need to babysit your MP.

A lot of damage calculations going around now with all of DRKs abilities, and it all just seems lazy. PLD basically does everything now. WAR lost some self healing, right? So does PLD now do everything better? Mitigate, self heal, magic damage, and physical damage? They had two years to figure it out and it still sucks.

[Ultimatecalibur]

All of these issues coming out the last few days through theorycrafting and basic mathematics...

That is the key word. Everyone's complaints and fears are built around theory rather than actual testing.

[Decederes]

Theorycrafting doesn't mean it can't be true. If people are providing mathematical evidence regarding rotation potency, until shown to be untrue, I have to side with it.

We've seen the potency, DRKs rotation is braindead...1 combo. Only thing we're not sure on right now is whether or not 50 blood generates from BN in general, after you take some dmg, or only if the shield is used up. Since Q is just a trash pull move, BN is meh regardless, BS is not as potent over all as Scourge and is a GCD...research by others is showing our dps goes down. PLD's is going way up. All this does is shift the ideal comp from WAR/DRK to PLD+WAR/DRK. They didn't balance at all. They just put a different tank in the spotlight. If you're going to make PLD the DPS king fine... I play all 3 tank jobs...but don't give them the most Mitigation, Self Healing, Group Mitigation, -and- the top DPS on top of it. It's not balanced, and it's going to create the same problems with DRK and WAR that PLD has had.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Theorycrafting doesn't mean it can't be true. If people are providing mathematical evidence regarding rotation potency, until shown to be untrue, I have to side with it. p

I can't side with it due to the information used being known as out of date, incomplete and mistranslated.

[Decederes]

I can't side with it due to the information used being known as out of date, incomplete and mistranslated.

Potency isn't mistranslated. Having one combo isn't mistranslated. Removing the DoT, 2 oGCD's, an entire combo, and adding NOTHING isn't mistranslated. BS is a meh replacement of Scourge that doesn't need to be tracked, BN is the only "questionable" ability since we don't know how or when the 50 blood generates, Q is worthless outside of dungeons+trash pulls. What is there exactly that is "out of date" and "mistranslated"? The only thing up in the air right now is BN's Blood generation, and whether or not SS's PvP effect is PvE now. This job is going to be a one combo, brain dead rotation.

[bswpayton]

Theorycrafting doesn't mean it can't be true. If people are providing mathematical evidence regarding rotation potency, until shown to be untrue, I have to side with it.

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Paladin is fine , they gave four skills to the cross role system, let them make it , Im so glad that clemency is half the mp cost now so they truely are the best self healing tank

[Decederes]

Paladin is fine , they gave four skills to the cross role system, let them make it , Im so glad that clemency is half the mp cost now so they truly are the best self healing tank

PLD is more than fine. DRK and WAR are my concerns. PLD has nothing to worry about. Best self mitigation, best pt mitigation, best self healing, best pt healing, best physical dmg according to potency, rotations, etc and best magical damage. It's just weird, because it seems like there are plenty of identities to go around but now PLD is everything.