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[Faliandra]

1) File a report to the GMs if they get rude or start insulting you. I believe that comes under harassment. And reports do work cross-realm. - also cross realm blacklist too (which by the way, did you know about the Contacts tab under social, used it to find a few toxic people from previous groups and blacklist them. Very useful! Just a heads-up incase you didn't know)
2) Yay! A free ticket out of that toxic dungeon for them kicking you, with no penalty either!
3) And if they complain about it, you can go back to one and explain "Well, I'm only matching what you guys are doing. Want me to pick up the pace? Pick yours up too." - if they get rude see point 1 and file a report, if they do 2 you requeue without penalty.

While I agree there's a problem there (though I tend to be laid back about things so I generally don't complain about it), it may also be they're struggling with the class so if they explain politely that they're struggling, we can go from there and try and help them improve. I'll admit I've posted my fair share of rants in the DF tales thread, but here, I figured I'd offer solutions instead.

see. I knew I'd get a reply like this...and its not really helping.

1) not all insults or comments are bad enough to really be reportable. Someone giving me attitude and being rude doesnt mean theyll face consequences. Some of these people stay subtle enough to get away with this. If it IS indeed beyond a certain point, i DO report though. Dont worry. however, reporting every day is a bit of a hassle. Anyway, I do it when I feel that it could work.

2) I know that. But it doesnt change the fact its frustrating how many people reject a votekick out of pure ignorance. Lets say you have a random tank, yourself as the heal and 2 teamed up DPS who do ABYSMALLY low dps. You try to confront them. They give you attitude. Then you initiate the votekick HOPING the random tank has some common sense......and he rejects. The 2 teamed up dps then continue to kick you. (<-- true story,btw)
Yeah. Sure I am now out of this hell without a penalty. But I still wasted time queueing (healer queues arent so great these days,at least not on EU Chaos) and inside the dungeon. And basically,they won. Even a random who didnt know the slackers basically sided with them. I can only hope they got a no-dps healer replacement who made their run painfully slow. Point remains: People should be sticking together and get rid of the bad apples. but they dont. Most likely they dont even know.

3) they cant complain. but its not something id do anyway, i dont want to remain in a party where 2 dps need 30 secs to kill a single mob. I may stall my dps for a while and tell them to watch how slow its going
but if they still dont step up their game...I'm gonna leave or ask to be kicked.


and to your last point:
You are ignorant too. Maybe you arent aware of it, but you are. I dont even mean this in a offensive or rude way but: You dont know better. Im not an elitist whos expecting top dps. But I have all classes on 60, and trust me, some of them I hardly know how to play because I lvled them long time ago and didnt touch them since then. And I do better. Way better.
I suggest you get a parser if you arent on PS4 and go to a dummy and put EFFORT to play a class you dont know well decently. Do it for like 2 minutes and check your overall DPS. Then repeat the same thing again, but this time: only do a 1-2-3 combo. keep pushing those 3 buttons and then check your overall dps. After that: keep pressing ONLY the FIRST button of your 1-2-3 combo. thats right, spam that 1 button hard for a while. And note your DPS. then start running dungeons....and youll get to see dps classes regularly, doing LESS than what you did with spamming 1 button.

Theyre doing basically auto-attack and every once in a while they press 1.
Thats all theyre doing. I do double the amount of dps on a single target and 3-4 times as much on a pack AoE as a HEALER compared to those DPS.

And there is one thing you need to understand: these players arent struggling. Theyre lazy. Pushing 1 button or even 3 has nothing to do with struggling. Stop giving them the benefit of doubt.a
The average roulette dps does 1400-1800 dps....ánd Id be the last person to kick those. They may not have the best rotation,but they actually are putting effort. The lazy ones stay below 1000.Like around 600-800 dps. There is absolutely no justification for this.
Everyone only using 1 or 3 skills out of their...say what...20-25 skills isnt struggling. theres no way you can not SEE or acknowledge all these other skills. Its purposefully being lazy.