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    Unless I am missing something the change we are looking at is...

    Patch 3.1 = 2 dungeons
    Patch 3.2 = 2 dungeons
    Patch 3.3 = 2 dungeons
    Patch 3.4 = 0 dungeons
    Patch 3.5 = 2 dungeons
    8 dungeons total

    to

    Patch 4.1 = 1 dungeon + new content
    Patch 4.2 = 2 dungeons
    Patch 4.3 = 1 dungeon + new content
    Patch 4.4 = 2 dungeons
    Patch 4.5 = 1 dungeon + new content
    7 dungeons total + 3 iterations of new content.

    I don't really think that is less content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    Patch 4.1 = 1 dungeon + new content
    Patch 4.2 = 2 dungeons
    Patch 4.3 = 1 dungeon + new content
    Patch 4.4 = 2 dungeons
    Patch 4.5 = 1 patch + new content
    7 dungeons total + 3 iterations of new content.

    I don't really think that is less content.
    There's the question if that "new content" is actually useful/fun to do. Can that new mysterious content help prevent us from burning ourselves while we do our daily Ex "roulette".

    Keeping it mystery isn't helping the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    There's the question if that "new content" is actually useful/fun to do. Can that new mysterious content help prevent us from burning ourselves while we do our daily Ex "roulette".

    Keeping it mystery isn't helping the situation.
    But we get 3 dungeons every 6 months again. Isn't it what the playerbase demanded since HW?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    7 dungeons total + 3 iterations of new content.

    I don't really think that is less content.
    Except you neglected to mention the new content we got in HW. You also neglected to mention ARR when we got 3 dungeons and new content. So yes, it's less content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    Except you neglected to mention the new content we got in HW. You also neglected to mention ARR when we got 3 dungeons and new content. So yes, it's less content.
    2.0
    3 dungeons -> 3 months -> 0 dungeon -> 3 months -> 3 dungeons -> 3 months -> 0 dungeon = 3 dungeons every 6 months

    4.0
    2 dungeons -> 3 months -> 1 dungeon -> 3 months -> 2 dungeons -> 3 months -> 1 dungeon = 3 dungeons every 6 months

    The current plan for what these patches will contain is odd numbered patches will have one dungeon and some other new content while even numbered patches will have two new dungeons and QOL improvements.
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-02-2017 at 12:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
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    We're going to do this.

    2.0
    2.1: 3 new dungeons + Crystal Tower + 3 primals > 3 months > 2.2: 3 new dungeons + Second Coil + 1 primal > 3 months~ > 2.3: 3 dungeons + 1 primal + Crystal Tower > 3 months > 2.4: 3 dungeons + Last Coil + 1 Primal > 3+1+1 months > 3 dungeons, Crystal Tower, Gold Saucer, Primal, Trial.

    3.0
    3.1: 2 Dungeons + Diadem + Void Ark + 1 Primal > 3 months > 3.2: 2 new dungeons + 1 primal + Midas > 3 months~ > 3.3: 2 new dungeons + Aqua + PotD + 1 trial + Weeping > 3 months~ >3.4: 2 new dungeons + Creator + Primal > almost 4 months > 3.5: 2 new dungeons + 1 primal + Dun Scaith.

    4.0
    4.1: 1 Dungeon + Stuff > 3 months > 4.2: 2 Dungeons + Stuff > 3 months > 4.3: 1 Dungeon + Stuff > 3 months > 4.4: 2 Dungeons + Stuff > 3 months > 4.5: 1 Dungeon + Stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    2.0
    3 dungeons -> 3 months -> 0 dungeon -> 3 months -> 3 dungeons -> 3 months -> 0 dungeon = 3 dungeons every 6 months
    We didn't have any patches without dungeons in ARR.

    2.0: The Wanderer's Palace, Amdapor Keep. Castrum Meridianum and Praetorium if you want to count them.
    2.1: Pharos Sirius, Copperbell Mines HM, Haukke Manor HM.
    2.2: The Lost City of Amdapor, Halatali HM, Brayflox HM.
    2.3: Hullbreaker Isle, Stone Vigil HM, Tam Tara HM.
    2.4: Snowcloak, Qarn HM, Sastasha HM.
    2.5: Keeper of the Lake, Wanderer's Palace HM, Amdapor Keep HM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    We didn't have any patches without dungeons in ARR.
    This is what's amazing. I don't understand how people can't see we're not losing content. 15 dungeons vs 10 dungeons vs 7 dungeons at the end of a game cycle. What amazing content do they think they're going to make to make up for losing more than half the dungeons we got in ARR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    This is what's amazing. I don't understand how people can't see we're not losing content. 15 dungeons vs 10 dungeons vs 7 dungeons at the end of a game cycle. What amazing content do they think they're going to make to make up for losing more than half the dungeons we got in ARR?
    Because dungeons are not the only content. If you want to say "we are losing dungeon content" well then yeah, that is 100% true, but that doesn't necessarily mean less overall content. We will have to wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    Because dungeons are not the only content. If you want to say "we are losing dungeon content" well then yeah, that is 100% true, but that doesn't necessarily mean less overall content. We will have to wait and see.
    Go back to the post I just made on the last page. I showed you all the major content we got. HW was less than ARR and SB looks to be even less than HW. I don't understand what they could possibly add to make up for all the content they've cut since ARR.
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