Red Mage looks Incomplete

[Driavna]

I should have clarified. As a Group Buff, this is good for NIN/BRD/MCH/MNK/SAM/DRG/WAR/PLD/DRK. But it doesn't really do anything for WHM/AST/SCH/SMN/BLM.

For the looks of it, RDM pairs really well with heavy physical damage combos as the only caster.

[NolLacnala]

"Equivalent of Physick" isn't a selling point, it's actually quite worrisome

[Adventica6]

SMN: Aetherflow, Energy Drain, Lucid Dream
BLM: Convert, Umbral Ice, Lucid Dream
RDM: Lucid Dream

Notice anything wrong?

Do you notice anything wrong? Rdm uses TP for half of it's dps, the other casters do not use TP, maybe you need to look harder.

[ErryK]

"Equivalent of Physick" isn't a selling point, it's actually quite worrisome

We were told RDM would be a pure damage caster class. It having both a heal and a raise is a selling point in that case.

[NolLacnala]

I use Physick post level 40

The rez is fine, a heal that heals 2% of your health is not

[ErryK]

The rez is fine, a heal that heals 2% of your health is not

So you're saying the heal isn't fine? As a DPS, I think it's scaled much better than SMN's Physick, which only heals 500HP~ at Lv60.

[Adventica6]

The heal is based off mnd and is the same as physic, how do you figure it heals more ? do you know how much mnd rdms will have ? no you don't.

[dark494]

The heal is based off mnd and is the same as physic, how do you figure it heals more ? do you know how much mnd rdms will have ? no you don't.

Yeah, actually we do. It's healing for 5500-6k. That's not an insignificant amount to heal for compared to physick on any other dps.

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[Wilan]

I paid attention to Vercure in the gameplay footage going around in youtube and it seemed to heal about 5500~HP. If it doesn't scale with INT it scales with attack power, but definetely not MND. Cast it twice in a row and that's a really decent amount.

As for a lack of defensive cooldown, did you notice that RDM is the most mobile caster of the game? He can move after basically every cast, has a gap closer AND a disengage skill, while never dropping the dps, PLUS a decent self-heal in case things go wrong. If you can't dodge AOEs with that mobility I don't know what's your problem.
A blackmage needs Manaward because it's on the opposite side of the mobility range, but the RDM can live without it.

Honestly, now that the embargo has lifted there's so many opinions flooding the internet and I've yet to find ONE PERSON who had the chance to play the new Red Mage and didn't like them. Hell I'm an old time RDM fan, I've been a main RDM for all the time I've played FFXI, and I'm really liking what I'm seeing. Why do we always need to complain without stepping back and looking at things in context? :/

[ErryK]

The heal is based off mnd and is the same as physic, how do you figure it heals more ? do you know how much mnd rdms will have ? no you don't.

Physick is actually higher potency, it's 400. Vercure is only 350, but since we aren't getting as much of a power creep between 60 and 70, as we did 50 and 60, it's safe to assume Physick will remain closer to 60 numbers, where it does mostly 500-600~ healing, and may potentially be doing closer to 1k by 70. I'm not stating it as fact, but I'm projecting what I think may be the case at 70.

But we already see that Vercure heals 5.8k non-crit.