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  1. #41
    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    What more important to you playing with online friends or playing with real life friends? Sounds like one o f those I want my cake and to eat it also.
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  2. #42
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    The argument that "I need a big server or else I can't find people to play with" is false as it gets.

    I've been on my tiny server for years and have never had an issue finding people, you need to be good at making friends first before you can get friends...

    Most of these posters are from balmung and don't have anything useful to say because of it.

    Not everyone needs to be on the giant servers and not everyone wants to. YOU make your own friends, not the server.
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  3. #43
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Oh no the unable server transfer to certain worlds is still up. Many people have been 'pointing out' how bad it is to block people from joining a terribly overpopulated server. Those poor players that are preventing other players from playing the game due to willingly joining an overpopulated server.

    We'd probably see less threads like this if they made dedicated RP worlds with perhaps certain area that they can interact between in. Hmmmmmmmmmmm......
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  4. #44
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    I'm sure Balmung players will be happy when the queue to get into world is at 2000 before you on opening day. Hey lets let more in so it can be 5000.
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  5. #45
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Megaservers create a completely disjointed world that eliminates any sense of community, as well as being horribly immersion-breaking by preventing the game from feeling like a it takes place in a real world. Small to medium population servers are far more social than gigantic ones, and far more immersive as well. That's where you can get a real sense of community.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    The one thing I don't see people complain about, which I think they have a right. Is the lock and free transfer system don't coincide. A person shouldn't have to pay to leave a lock server. They waited this long and couldn't have both systems in place.
    This is the most legitimate complaint here, and as Moonlite points out, it's one that people seem to just ignore. Locking the highest population servers and providing the free transfers to low pop servers should have both been implemented together rather than a month or so apart.
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  6. #46
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    Kyra Lee
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 70
    No one here has mentioned Eve Online yet, I find that weird. Every player in Eve plays on the single game server. All 21k current players are able to interact with one another at any given time. The most that were ever online at once was 63k back in 2013. A single system, Jita, routinely has 800+ people in it. That can get up to 1500 people on the weekends. Could you imagine 1500 people in Idyllshire?

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    Megaservers are possible in a fast paced MMO, the game just has to be built from the ground up with that idea in mind. There is no way the PS3 could have handled that. PS4s and most low end PCs would have a hard time loading a zone with 500+ players in it. In the case of Eve, most of the population is clustered in a small percentage of zones and there are huge swaths of empty space. You would have the same thing in this game.

    I don't feel this game needs a single mega server, but multiple balanced servers.
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  7. #47
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    347SPECTRE's Avatar
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    Megaservers create a completely disjointed world that eliminates any sense of community, as well as being horribly immersion-breaking by preventing the game from feeling like a it takes place in a real world. Small to medium population servers are far more social than gigantic ones, and far more immersive as well. That's where you can get a real sense of community.



    This is the most legitimate complaint here, and as Moonlite points out, it's one that people seem to just ignore. Locking the highest population servers and providing the free transfers to low pop servers should have both been implemented together rather than a month or so apart.
    Probably should have said something about it in my previous post, but yeah, they should have done the free transfers along side the locking, that way they stabilize BEFORE the sh*t-storm at launch.
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  8. #48
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandos View Post
    No one here has mentioned Eve Online yet, I find that weird. Every player in Eve plays on the single game server. All 21k current players are able to interact with one another at any given time. The most that were ever online at once was 63k back in 2013. A single system, Jita, routinely has 800+ people in it. That can get up to 1500 people on the weekends. Could you imagine 1500 people in Idyllshire?

    Source

    Megaservers are possible in a fast paced MMO, the game just has to be built from the ground up with that idea in mind. There is no way the PS3 could have handled that. PS4s and most low end PCs would have a hard time loading a zone with 500+ players in it. In the case of Eve, most of the population is clustered in a small percentage of zones and there are huge swaths of empty space. You would have the same thing in this game.

    I don't feel this game needs a single mega server, but multiple balanced servers.
    It's been stated in one of the many threads on this topic that the devs have capped each server at 7500 logins, and this was awhile ago, they may have raised it. Eve online doesn't have the numbers to really compare to total population on all servers. Balmug is at 15 or 16 thousand just by itself. Though I do agree that mega servers are probably a bad idea for immersion. It would be nice in some cases to be able to instance jump to a friends server on occaision, but I'll live. I have alts.
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    Last edited by savageink; 06-01-2017 at 09:16 AM. Reason: to clarify total pop

  9. #49
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE View Post
    Probably should have said something about it in my previous post, but yeah, they should have done the free transfers along side the locking, that way they stabilize BEFORE the sh*t-storm at launch.
    I have a Gilga alt I was about to transfer to Siren when I learned for the free transfers and bonus items so i'm waiting to see. I would have preferred to have the transfer done before the release and I'm not really sure why they are delaying it. It's sure not going to help the log in jam and possible server crashes on opening day when everyone tries to access those over crowded servers.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I have a Gilga alt I was about to transfer to Siren when I learned for the free transfers and bonus items so i'm waiting to see. I would have preferred to have the transfer done before the release and I'm not really sure why they are delaying it. It's sure not going to help the log in jam and possible server crashes on opening day when everyone tries to access those over crowded servers.
    Maybe they want to show people why they need to transfer. Sitting in queue for an extended period might change some of their minds and then getting into an unplayable lagfest after the wait might change some more minds. But they probably just realized they need to do something about it and haven't written the code yet. I think you might be giving them too much credit for their ability to plan ahead. lol!
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