1.2 Needs to fix Sentinel, Tanking, and XI Class-ism.

[Murugan]

This thread is even better than the other one!

Casual blowhard: "OMG XI Elitists are forcing people to level gladiator, and play only as one of three jobs appropriate for the fight. Square Enix must intervene and help me repair my shattered virtual ego!"

FFXI elitist: "No we aren't. You are being ridiculous."

Sane Casual: "Don't worry about those jerks. I killed it without Sentinel!"

Normal Person: "Yeah, it's not so bad. It is just a tough fight. I killed it as a Pugilist!"

Jealous Individual: "LIARS!!!!!!!!"

[Kirith]

Very simply, you don't design a skill that shaves a % of damage for whoever equips it, but one that uses the player's stats to shave a proportional amount. That way, said skill wouldn't be effective enough for mages, archers and classes without the right stats. To use that skill effectively people would need specific builds with specific classes and equipment, thus making the requirements for it too inefficient to achieve for people to blindly require others to achieve them.

tl;dr: the skill's effectiveness must be stat-dependent, not absolute, otherwise it will be required by more and more content in the future or become a development roadblock.

[Xello]

I'm not interested in levelling ANY job. at all. SE, I demand you make ifrit weapons attainable to me.

It's an mmorpg, that doesn't mean it's a dedicated X job simulator.

If you want the shinies, earn em. the world isn't gonna fall at your feet because you're blinkered to levelling anything else. Maybe crafters should have a way to craft ifrit to death, cause they don't fancy fighting?

Also, Classist. hahaha. That's retarded.

[Agoven]

Check again. Because:

a) you're wrong about subjobs
b) maybe you mean Death Knight, but either way you're wrong about that too

Maybe I don't remember much about this game because it sucked away many years of my life...it rotted it in fact...

And after the fact I realized Blizzard couldn't give me anything more then the same quest over and over and over again. Story? Content? the community...ugh drama...I led a number of super successful guilds and weekly raids...I know what I'm talking about in the WoW area...and what's so great the last expansion which tons of my friends bought they couldn't even play the game more then a week they were so numb to it all.

Changing graphics and giving me more gear doesn't win me over. The bosses...hmm...they got more lame and lame and less hard and OMG seriously. I can't talk about WoW I go pew pew.

And...pause for a word to the general public.

FFXIV is breath of fresh air...maybe it's not for everyone. Maybe it's not what everyone expected...it's an MMO in it's early years...it needs time to mature. I said it from day one...people who don't know or aren't vested into an MMO during it's growing pains years NEED to not play the game till year 1 or 2.

All they do is whine here and there. Well an MMO is constantly in flux people need to know and enjoy the changes...grow and evolve with the community. Constructively criticize to make a better game...

These forums enrage me...and sadly developers look at these forums and it affects them...been there done that...

Can't wait till the monthly fees kick in so the PEW PEW community can go away and let SE do their job...and the quality of the worlds are improved and these forums especially.

There's a good way to say you dislike something. There's a proper way to address changes you want made. There's an open line of communication to share your ideas. If you state things in a fashion that are positive rather then only negative you move towards a course in the right direction. If you just spew troll hate 24/7 you just spreading hate and instead of being heard properly you have destroyed the legitimacy of what you open your mouth to do. Simply put if you can't say it nicely don't say it cause you'll just be end up a fool....

[Corrderio]

It sucks, but getting level 36 isn't that bad.

[Agoven]

Check again. Because:

a) you're wrong about subjobs
b) maybe you mean Death Knight, but either way you're wrong about that too

Disclaimer: At the time of writing that I was heavily in stages of feverish plague illness and my brain was not spewing coherently or the right words. I meant to say as far as WoW classes have just lost it with balance and uniqueness...the death knight...the everything you can and want to be class...the games just overly saturated.

I didn't mean subjob I meant to say the talents blend out now that give you too much powers and the distinctions of a particular class and character archetype are lost. How can you say Death Knight wasn't a horrid addition...it entirely ruined the balance of the game...

[Lebannen]

Seriously. With the new system you can go from 20 to 36 in a good day if you get someone to PL you. I took my marauder from 20 to 35 yesterday so I would know. Its not that big of a deal.

[Agoven]

Yeah...I think I did 14 or 16 levels on conjurer in a short evening...started the day at 24 or 26 and ended up at 40. I'll have to review history...my minds a lil foggy.

[Quanta]

It sucks, but getting level 36 isn't that bad.

It's not that it's necessarily bad, it's that it shouldn't be necessary to tackle endgame content, Of course, since this is only one fight and it's still a relatively young one, you can't really say that Sentinel is OP; if the Moogle Primal comes out, and the community's answer is to deploy Sentinel again, then you might have something of concern.

[Quanta]

Disclaimer: At the time of writing that I was heavily in stages of feverish plague illness and my brain was not spewing coherently or the right words. I meant to say as far as WoW classes have just lost it with balance and uniqueness...the death knight...the everything you can and want to be class...the games just overly saturated.

I didn't mean subjob I meant to say the talents blend out now that give you too much powers and the distinctions of a particular class and character archetype are lost. How can you say Death Knight wasn't a horrid addition...it entirely ruined the balance of the game...

Ago, you don't know shit about DKs. While they did come out as being completely OP at the start of Wrath, it evened out considerably once Ulduar came into the picture, and was a non-issue for ToC and ICC. You even saw the groundwork being laid for Cata when Blood became the defacto tanking tree for all DK tanks while Frost and Unholy were stripped of most of their useful tanking talents. On the flip side, Blood DPS was gutted in kind, and Unholy became the superior DPS raid spec while Frost made for an awesome PvP support spec.

Class dismissed.