Ninja

[TheLastDream]

One thing that gave me pause was that we lose both Internal Release and Blood for Blood from the Cross-Class system. Dragoon and Monk are only going to lose one which is kind of disappointing considering we're already behind both in personal DPS. I can only hope that we get a strong DPS cooldown in exchange for Goad becoming available to all DPS.

Based on video from the Live Letter it looks like Shadow Fang will be a 3rd tier combo finisher, but it will apply the Slashing Debuff. The consolidation is nice.

It will be nice that shadow fang applies the slashing debuff, But that makes us only have 1 Dot with mutilate. So we lose b4b,internal release, possible 1 dot, no kiss wasp/venom. Maybe they buffed all our skills or something but looks like they really took alot of DPS from us.

[Okamimaru]

Unless there's a full list of all ninja skills with their effects I'm missing somewhere I think people are panicking over nothing

[KaiSunstrider]

It will be nice that shadow fang applies the slashing debuff, But that makes us only have 1 Dot with mutilate. So we lose b4b,internal release, possible 1 dot, no kiss wasp/venom. Maybe they buffed all our skills or something but looks like they really took alot of DPS from us.

So far it looks like all non combo dots have been removed, ToD is gone from monks as is fracture from warrior. It's likely that mutilate will be gone as well and SF will remain as your maintance dot.

[TheLastDream]

Shadowfang now puts up the slashing debuff as well as the dot, so I assume that dancing edge has been redesigned or is gone all together. As long as you maintain your SF dot, youll have 100% uptime on slashing debuff

Thanks I do like that it does both!

[Nihlus_Tia]

Unless there's a full list of all ninja skills with their effects I'm missing somewhere I think people are panicking over nothing

You're stating the obvious. I haven't seen anyone in here panicking. OP merely asked for commentary on the changes presented to date, which is what people have been doing.

[Arkenne]

Rewatching the twitch video where we see the NIN apply Shadow Fang (and the Slashing debuff) they also use Duality + Armor Crush
I noticed that 3 numbers came up:

a 5K critical hit
a 3.4k normal hit
and a 1k normal hit

I am supposing the 1k one is an auto-attack, and the 5k and 3.4k are from Duality. This may mean that either they changed Duality so the first strike can Crit, or they removed the "Can't Crit with Duality" part.

Snapshot at 1:45:44

Edit: NVM, not a guaranteed crit

With Duality AE at 1:38:27

But it seems like they CAN crit

Edit 2: There is another one

Another Duality AE at 1:43:03

This one was wrongly done, an AE without properly comboing, so it does a 1.2k normal hit, a 1.5k crit auto attack and a 2k crit.
So thats 2 incidences of Crits on Duality.

Sadly the samples are too far apart to tell if there is any change in the CD timing.



I just hope its just a coincidence that Dancing Edge hadn't made an appearance so far...

[Silverquick]

Ok I have to know...

What exactly do you guys do during the AoE pulls... I have never been able to figure it out. I only know that when I have a good Ninja in party, the mobs will drop much faster. And I have no idea of where your damage comes from.

It does not appear in the Battle Log chat... but SOMETHING you guys do is incredibly effective in an AoE multiple mob pulls.

I have looked over your abilities and can find nothing to explain it. Closest I came was Poisoned Earth or whatever its called. I do see it when you lay it down. What else do you guys use in that situation?

Also... what is the power you use that makes that "Cha-chink" sound?

[Arkenne]

Well, not really much to figure out,
It's basically a spam of Death Blossom.
Katon and Kassatsu Doton where needed and another Katon by the end of most of them.
Add the use of a B4B and IR to the window and you do a bit more.

Other than that there really isn't much else

[Okamimaru]

Well, not really much to figure out,
It's basically a spam of Death Blossom.
Katon and Kassatsu Doton where needed and another Katon by the end of most of them.
Add the use of a B4B and IR to the window and you do a bit more.

Other than that there really isn't much else

Pretty much this.... especially since death blossom got its to cost reduced and it's damage buffed.... drop doton on the ground, kassatsu > katon, death blossom spam.... I'll pick off single targets here and there using the combo ending with armor crush to keep Huton up...

[Okamimaru]

On mobile so can't edit.... I prefer katon over doton most of the time since it can crit....