Ninja

[Dezwaan]

It's a massive concern because look at how much you would be clipping your GCDs in order to cast three mudra in a row...

It's the entire reason fuma is better most of the time over raiton.

[Shurrikhan]

It's the entire reason fuma is better most of the time over raiton.

Only if over ~180 ping (decreasing at higher SS rates) or if the half- to two-thirds-seconds would otherwise cost you a buffed reapplication.

Note also, this would only take as about long as two Raiton to cast Fuma, Raiton, and Suiton sequentially. 3 mudra + 3 Ninjutsu. At under 80 ms ping, mudra cast times and Ninjutsu cast times are identical. At over 80, Ninjutsu are only faintly longer.

That said, I agree with the concern that if the tri-Jutsu skill needs to be cast sequentially, with no weaponskills permitted between Ninjutsu cast, it would increase the dps gap between high and low ping players further—not tremendously, but noticeably, especially in terms of SS plateaus.

If weavable, these would all just be double-weaves; with the client-side checks to Mudras, that wouldn't much disadvantage the typical player. But if not, it'd be a 6x-weave, where the checking times on those Ninjutsu are going to accumulate, possibly taking a 200 ms ping player almost 2 seconds longer than a sub-80 ms player to cast all three.

[Heliantheae]

I hope the toad doesn't need a target to use, cause I want to barf on random people in the next Idyllshire.

[Watachy]

Im absolutely not hyped about the NIN in SB.

Others jobs hyped me way mroe than the naruto-style unfortunately...

[MahoSenshi]

Sad but true. More Naruto stuff is a huge turn-off for those of us who want a silent deadly assassin and not another flashy shounen hero.

[Zojha]

Sad but true. More Naruto stuff is a huge turn-off for those of us who want a silent deadly assassin and not another flashy shounen hero.

I dunno. I like to think the "flashy" part was foreshadowed right from when we first went into Middle La Noscea and used Spinning Edge on our first Wharf Rat, spinning like a record and drawing bright lines in the air in the process.

[Watachy]

I dunno. I like to think the "flashy" part was foreshadowed right from when we first went into Middle La Noscea and used Spinning Edge on our first Wharf Rat, spinning like a record and drawing bright lines in the air in the process.

Im with Maho for this one, i always loved and played stealth classes like rogues/assassins in my MMOS and the direction that NIN is taking ain't interesting for me anymore (just a personal choice).

Im glad they will release RDm cause i was always wondering if i should be a melee or caster, i can be both now :P

[Zojha]

Im with Maho for this one, i always loved and played stealth classes like rogues/assassins in my MMOS and the direction that NIN is taking ain't interesting for me anymore (just a personal choice).

We all got our preferences! That's all fine.

I'm merely pointing out that this direction IMO isn't something new or surprising and I'm a bit surprised that there are people who hoped that would change. Our style has been super flashy and impractical from the start (Reverse grip? Really?... nevermind, you're not even stabbing), stealth has never been more than a gimmick for class quests. At level 35, we already threw fireballs and lightning around, the 50s quest was a veritable display of fireworks and then we went as far as to make a point out of being noisy and flashy with Raiton to draw attention towards us. Our limit break are shiny moonlight blades.

I simply don't quite understand where the notion that ninja was ever stealthy comes from. To me, Stormblood just keeps going down the same road we've been on all this time in that regard. To me, the real question is: Why do we keep getting these black stealth suits for AF gear? A gaudy Geisha outfit would be more fitting (and probably more historically correct, considering ninjas typically wore civilian clothes or disguises)!

[Arkenne]

Our limit break are shiny moonlight blades.

Have you seen the character animation for LB3 from up close?
We look like a power-ranger doing their finisher.

[RaizeGraymalkin]

NIN was one of the few classes that just seemed underwhelming honestly. Not crazy about the Frog spit move nor the NIN leylines. Hell I didn't care for most of their 3.0 kit either, in terms of exciting stuff.