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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Snip.
    Most of your complaints are cases of confusing "Nice to have" with "Necessary to have." Healer DpS is nice but not always necessary.
    Swiftcast:
    Not only does it need to help raise but it is REQUIRED to have as a SCH, a MUST, ast and whm not as much but if bad things happen and I need to heal more though Dissipation, well it is a need.
    You may need to reexamine your Dissipation use, and you don't need to swiftcast summon at the start of a duty.

    It is nice but is not required despite your belief that it is required.

    Esuna is a need, paralyses means DPS loss. healing though poison is a DPS loss. I wanted leeches at 18 not 40, because of these issues.
    Not every fight inflicts esunable status effects. Only reason you really want esuna before 40 is because of how esunable Dot heavy Thousand Maws is. Most other DoTs and Status effects are fairly easy to ignore. A fair few Healers have ignored esunable status effects on me to focus more on their own damage.

    Protect is a need, less damage taken means more room for DPS.
    Most healers overheal by more than 10%. You won't be losing that much dps from not having it. It will only be needed when the different in damage between having and not having is the difference between someone dying and someone not dying.

    Funny how you label eye for eye as more useful then above, but is a need in large pulls regardless.
    As a tank I rarely have trouble in large pulls when a healer/summoner fails to use Eye for an Eye on me. Also I said Eye for an Eye will be "useful" not "more useful than other abilities."

    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Yes, they are all useful. But we can't have them all anymore. And since I won't know in advance if people are going to take lots of damage or die and eat up all my mp, I NEED to be prepared with Swiftcast, Lucid Dream, and Divine Seal.
    Which is why your in general selection might look like this:
    • Swiftcast
    • Lucid Dream
    • Appreciation
    • Protect
    • Esuna

    And swap in the other 5 based on your knowledge of what will be useful in the content you are doing.

    My general tanking set is likely to be the following.
    • Low blow
    • Interject
    • Either Provoke or Ultimatum depending on player preference
    • Rampart
    • Convalescence

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    Protect and a cleanse effect, esuna, or whatever, is a standard for healers in like every mno in existence? (or least in ff) It shouldn't be filling up a limited list of "bonus" abilities.
    "Standard" does not equal "always needed." The 5 slot limit of the Cross Role system is more about button bloat limiting than preventing use of common abilities.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 05-25-2017 at 03:41 PM.