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[bswpayton]

If I recall, it generates more Beast stacks. So we've seemingly lost our self healing god-mode from HW, but I'm betting we're still going to be the offensive tank, with PLD being defensive, and DRK being 'alf-'n'-'alf. I'm excited to see how the new mechanics work. There is also an outside chance we've still got Bloodbath, but we've certainly lost

I waas lookin at the live letter to see if the bloodbath icon that was on the melee dps cross role was on warrior but Im not sure. But to me taking bloodbath from warrior will make them the most dependent on heals from healers now. Where as now clemency cost almost as little as say a cure 2 on whm, and its potency is strong, bloodbath was one of the most unique things about warrior to me it fit the class so well.

You cant always depend on equilibrium because most warriors tank in deliverance so you only have access to that heal if your in tank stance so essentially your only self heal at all times on warrior is gonna be thrill of battle I consider this a major nerf and somewhat stripping warrior of its niche, because I did see inner beast still on yosi hot but again that is only in tank stance. So as of now it seems that warrior is really just gona be best in an off tank situation mostly, because the gauges change or drop now when you tank dance on warrior which seems you have to rebuild it up before using say in inner beast.

[Fernosaur]

So as of now it seems that warrior is really just gona be best in an off tank situation mostly, because the gauges change or drop now when you tank dance on warrior which seems you have to rebuild it up before using say in inner beast.

This can apply to all three tanks, really. From the looks of it, PLD has also had their enmity combo removed from their DPS rotation, with Riot Blade now comboing into Royal Authority. I think the whole "MT/OT" mentality is gonna have to go for good if the tanks want to be able to burst together, which will obviously be more optimal than just having one staying in DPS stance through the whole fight.

There might be a slight tank damage nerf too, and other factors that make it seem like SE wants to make the responsibilities of tanking more in line with tanking and managing enmity than having WAR pull and forgetting about tank stance and enmity combos for the entire fight.

I'm fine with this, making tanks and healers more complex in their primary role is a really nice move.

I just saw they are clemency cost half mp now so basicly instead of warrior being the self healing tank ull be better off healing urself as a pali now

You'll have the option, but Holy Spirit is and PLD's new rotation in general seems to be intimately tied to MP use, so Clemency is gonna be a DPS loss. I think they really want to limit all tanks' self-healing abilities now that healers don't commit to any risk by DPSing.

[bswpayton]

This can apply to all three tanks, really. From the looks of it, PLD has also had their enmity combo removed from their DPS rotation, with Riot Blade now comboing into Royal Authority. I think the whole "MT/OT" mentality is gonna have to go for good if the tanks want to be able to burst together,

I dont trust healers , I started off as a healer I dont even trust myself all the time , death is the biggest dps loss and judging from the fact that what it looks like all tanks have lost two defensive cooldowns , with foresight and bloodbath being gone.

I have a smaller tool kit for tankin in sword oath and the other ot stances , so i can see me using clemency alot and ill sacrifice living over a dps gain anyday. Dun scathe is perfect example ive ran that so much and been the only player still alive its crazy. Not a call out sayin everyones bad but Im not gona put all my trust in random players Im just doing an instance with especally now that foresight, and bloodbath are gone. In my experience Ive died more from healers that didnt dps at all than those whom did some people just struggle with the role are struggle with the mechanics and if the healers dead I dont want it to always be well healers dead autowipe.