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    rjspencer4's Avatar
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    Despair Senpai
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    PLD seems to have lost Shield Swipe.
    I lost count of how many times they adjusted that skill.
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    aleph_null's Avatar
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    Aleph Alpha
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Seems like low blow and reprisal cd reset proc by parry were removed? Did anyone notice anything about the slashing debuff? It seemed like maim gave slashing debuff. I wonder if the other two tanks will have slashing debuff as well.
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Seems like a huge gain to Paladins, but a serious problem for Warriors considering what they lost out on. Having access to Reprisal and Low Blow (even if it doesn't reset) is huge for solidifying them for a MT position now, but I also feel like some of these skills were a bad choice. Similar to healer, it feels like 3-4 skills are outright mandatory for the role and leaves little room for actually choosing the new skills they took the time to make.
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I made my own thread but nobody is really sayin does warrior lose blood bath and inner beast if so warriors can never do any solo content again this really makes me angry if they takin this away.
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    Drudwyn Alphus
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    I'm pretty sure that's not the case. As a WAR main, it looks like we're changing to a mechanic where we gain stacks and use stacks. Inner Beast has moved from a skill to a stacking ability. We do lose Blood for Blood, so the AOE spam heals with Vengeance days are over. We'll still keep our self heal mechanics, after all, that's what we do. We have lots of HP, we're squishy, but we hit hard and we heal well. I doubt that's going to change too much. Just the Wrath/Abandon->5 stacks->Inner Beast/Fell Cleave, days are gone. We'll still be kicking arse and looking as firey as Bahamut. Don't worry!
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Drudwyn View Post
    I'm pretty sure that's not the case. As a WAR main, it looks like we're changing to a mechanic where we gain stacks and use stacks. Inner Beast has moved from a skill to a stacking ability. We do lose Blood for Blood, so the AOE spam heals with Vengeance days are over. We'll still keep our self heal mechanics, after all, that's what we do. We have !
    They are losing a ton of self healing with no blood bath , essentially all they have now is thrill of battle and equilibrium , and storms path that is if it still heals after the redesign. Like gettin rampart instead of bloodbath and innerbeast is just horrible so they essentially nerfed warriors self healing. And now they will need the healers more than ever this just really sucks for warriors in my opinion, if they where gona do this they might as well just give defiance 20 percent extra defense like the other two tanks they destroyed their niche
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    Drudwyn's Avatar
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    Drudwyn Alphus
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    As the stack system is called Inner Beast, and we're not sure what that stack does, I wouldn't say we're losing old Inner Beast with its self heal, damaging hit, and damage mitigation. We've not seen what the Defiance version of Fell Cleave is yet! Losing Blood for Blood is a bugger, I admit that, berserk/B4B was a tasty as hell combo. But... let's wait and see.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    We still have the actual move IB. If you re-watch the broadcast bit where they show off WAR, you'll notice that when he switches from Defiance to Deliverance, IB and Steel Cyclone get replaced with FC and Decimate. Which is a great change and should've always been the way it worked (though the macro was a decent enough workaround).

    We did, however, lose Bloodbath which means our self healing took a big hit especially in trash pulls in dungeons. There's still some stuff we don't know yet, though, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

    e: Also Unchained turns into the new buff thing that makes all your energy-related stuff cost half.
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    Last edited by SpookyGhost; 05-24-2017 at 12:50 AM.

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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
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    Hruodig Hruodiger
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    I really feel like warrior is losing a lot of what attracted me to it in the first place. I love how warrior feels to play right now...it's smooth, it's cohesive, and it's effective. Stance dancing is effortless, and rewards knowledge of the fight. Now that we're losing IB when we stance dance, I feel like that's a deterrent to doing it too often. Plus no more blood bath? Second wind? Can't infuriate outside combat? Overall tank damage nerfs? Not like this.
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