"closing the DPS gap"

[Shurrikhan]

I'll say this based on another thread I posted in to remind me of something. Don't you think the skill gap is too big when 2 brds in i270 (keep in mind these are aoe situations) where one does 4k-6k DPS, healer does 2-3K range and the unskilled i270 brd does 1200?!?!?!?!?!

Hyperbole aside... By fault of the system, no. By fault of the player (the shit Bard), yes.

But the only remedy for that is training, and not ceding to the lowest denominator.

Admittedly, there are concerns that contribute to "skill" gap that have nothing to do with thought, nuance, decisiveness, calculation, etc., but rather just being better able to hit the keys one wants to hit better than the next guy, where the gap could be reduced by simply reducing the amount of false option keys. But the rest? Is there really an issue with a someone who actually understands the priority system of his skills, CD sync, and his possible interactions with the given fight doing better than someone who can't be bothered to think about it or practice his job? Everything that isn't part of "just hitting buttons more accurately" is part of that.

[Hamada]

Hyperbole aside... By fault of the system, no. By fault of the player (the shit Bard), yes.

But the only remedy for that is training, and not ceding to the lowestdenominator.

Admittedly, there are concerns that contribute to "skill" gap that have nothing to do with thought, nuance, decisiveness, calculation, etc., but rather just being better able to hit the keys one wants to hit better than the next guy, where the gap could be reduced by simply reducing the amount of false option keys. But the rest? Is there really an issue with a someone who actually understands the priority system of his skills, CD sync, and his possible interactions with the given fight doing better than someone who can't be bothered to think about it or practice his job? Everything that isn't part of "just hitting buttons more accurately" is part of that.

exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.

So you are misusing the term or doubting it really happened and yes it is very literal and 1200 is a literal dps aoe number that this one i270 brd pulled off in an expert.

Anyways we can also take this closing the dps gap with not allowing people to wear the wrong right side. That is good and all but still what about ilevel dodging the left? People put underleveled left a lot only to be carried by high ilevel on the right since the right is easier to get. Having a brd (different story now and yes this is literal numbers) in a level 60 df, last patch expert, The Great Gubal Library hard, with a bard pulling 275 DPS on bosses and 400s for aoe because in large part having a level 52 weapon (and rotations since level 50 at 50 sync can do 400-700 dps)This happened yesterday, btw.

[Shurrikhan]

So you are misusing the term or doubting it really happened and yes it is very literal and 1200 is a literal dps aoe number that this one i270 brd pulled off in an expert.

I'm not contesting that such idiots exist. But, especially given that you never mentioned AoE in your original quote, unless we're talking a half-minute Faust Z clear with additional padding, no one's sustaining 6k, nor any healer 3k. And certainly not in the same group as a DPS who's doing 1200. So, yes, I assumed hyperbole.

the hell, i was just talking expert trash aoe pulls, (I SAID AOE???) why does everyone assume people are talking about salvage?
I seen good brd range 4-6k on the same pull this other brd did 1200 on.. volly spam ftw???
This is your post:

How in the hell do you say I never said AoE?

Shit, I was looking at the wrong post when mentioning the original. My apologies.

That's still some pretty tremendous burst even for AoE, though...

[Ama_Hamada]

I'm not contesting that such idiots exist. But, especially given that you never mentioned AoE in your original quote, unless we're talking a half-minute Faust Z clear with additional padding, no one's sustaining 6k, nor any healer 3k. And certainly not in the same group as a DPS who's doing 1200. So, yes, I assumed hyperbole.

the hell, i was just talking expert trash aoe pulls, (I SAID AOE???) why does everyone assume people are talking about salvage?
I seen good brd range 4-6k on the same pull this other brd did 1200 on.. volly spam ftw???
This is your post:

I'll say this based on another thread I posted in to remind me of something. Don't you think the skill gap is too big when 2 brds in i270 (keep in mind these are aoe situations) where one does 4k-6k DPS, healer does 2-3K range and the unskilled i270 brd does 1200?!?!?!?!?!

Hyperbole aside... By fault of the system, no. By fault of the player (the shit Bard), yes.

But the only remedy for that is training, and not ceding to the lowest denominator.

Admittedly, there are concerns that contribute to "skill" gap that have nothing to do with thought, nuance, decisiveness, calculation, etc., but rather just being better able to hit the keys one wants to hit better than the next guy, where the gap could be reduced by simply reducing the amount of false option keys. But the rest? Is there really an issue with a someone who actually understands the priority system of his skills, CD sync, and his possible interactions with the given fight doing better than someone who can't be bothered to think about it or practice his job? Everything that isn't part of "just hitting buttons more accurately" is part of that.

How in the hell do you say I never said AoE?