PVP changes from livestream.

[BloodRubyXII]

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I looked at it again, it's 9 pvp actions, then your 6 combo actions, then 2 pvp abilities.

So now the most aids thing to me is having to choose one pvp action because purify is basically mandatory lol.

I also gave the JP forums a read, although there isn't much discussion. Seems for the most part they're happy with the direction and their feedback is pretty much building on the base of pvp ie introducing duelling, shop items for cosmetic pvp stuff etc.

[Korihu]

I looked at it again, it's 9 pvp actions, then your 6 combo actions, then 2 pvp abilities.

So now the most aids thing to me is having to choose one pvp action because purify is basically mandatory lol

I thought it was 9 actions, 2 selectable PvP abilities and then limit break?

Either way only being able to select two will be rough. Especially if we cannot choose one pre-match, if Focalisation is still an option then not being able to select/deselect it if the enemy team has SMN/BLM/RDM is gonna suck a little.

[BloodRubyXII]

I thought it was 9 actions, 2 selectable PvP abilities and then limit break?

Either way only being able to select two will be rough. Especially if we cannot choose one pre-match, if Focalisation is still an option then not being able to select/deselect it if the enemy team has SMN/BLM/RDM is gonna suck a little.

I thought that too, till I saw this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...VkQ/edit#gid=0

Seems you have your combo abilities, then your cds. Your combo abilities being obviously condensed into 2 buttons.

[Koltik]

I looked at it again, it's 9 pvp actions, then your 6 combo actions, then 2 pvp abilities.

So now the most aids thing to me is having to choose one pvp action because purify is basically mandatory lol.

I also gave the JP forums a read, although there isn't much discussion. Seems for the most part they're happy with the direction and their feedback is pretty much building on the base of pvp ie introducing duelling, shop items for cosmetic pvp stuff etc.

Why is Purify mandatory? They changed it, it only removes CC effects now, not debuffs or DoT's. It's not even required for melee in the current state. The only thing I ever use purify on as monk is full swing, which it will no longer remove.

You're all looking at PvP as it is now, but it's going to change completely. It's impossible to say it won't work because every element of PvP is in flux.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...VkQ/edit#gid=0

Purify 45s SELF ONLY: Remove stuns, silences, sleeps, binds, heavies, slows, silences

[BloodRubyXII]

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Purify 45s SELF ONLY: Remove stuns, silences, sleeps, binds, heavies, slows, silences

Only tanks will have stuns as it appears atm, however you can still be sleeped on your burst or rooted out of LoS.

I mean I know where you're going with this, I purify more debuffs on myself than actual CC, but you can literally lose games if you're sleeped and can't peel whilst your healer is being bursted in a stun. That's how I'm seeing it. It is the only CC breaker you will have outside of healer dispel, and if quick games are going to be the thing, there's no guarantee on there being enough open gcds to dispel.

[Koltik]

Only tanks will have stuns as it appears atm, however you can still be sleeped on your burst or rooted out of LoS.

I mean I know where you're going with this, I purify more debuffs on myself than actual CC, but you can literally lose games if you're sleeped and can't peel whilst your healer is being bursted in a stun. That's how I'm seeing it. It is the only CC breaker you will have outside of healer dispel, and if quick games are going to be the thing, there's no guarantee on there being enough open gcds to dispel.

You'll either choose the new Fetter, or Purify. Either can work, you don't need both, and I'd personally say that Fetter would be the better option depending on how fast you can get your burst out. This way you can guarantee LB's. The other skill will probably be the reduced damage PvP action or sprint.