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    Cadmar Locke
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    Love it. Now there is ZERO excuse for a healer not to DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    You're a warrior of light and can't even defeat Twintania with a 20% echo buff? Thanks for the offer but I'll find someone else to save the world.

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    Asahina Karayami
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cadmar View Post
    Love it. Now there is ZERO excuse for a healer not to DPS.
    No clue whats this thread about - no source anywhere!

    Healers are healers. I Still wont DPS at all lol... people these days...
    Or DPS classes can heal the party?
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    Player Leanna's Avatar
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    Leanna Crawford
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    No clue whats this thread about - no source anywhere!

    Healers are healers. I Still wont DPS at all lol... people these days...
    Or DPS classes can heal the party?
    DPS Classes doesn't have healing skills, healers have DPS skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    DPS Classes doesn't have healing skills, healers have DPS skills.
    I'm all for rectifying that, tho.

    But healers might no longer be taken into content as a result, considering how low it's tuned on healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    I'm all for rectifying that, tho.

    But healers might no longer be taken into content as a result, considering how low it's tuned on healing.
    They wouldn't be. Of the four recent dungeons, I think only Balesar's Wall might have too much aoe damaging from the second boss to push through without a healer. Xelphatol and Gubal were a joke at release and Solm Al just never does enough damage. Warrior's self healing is absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    DPS Classes doesn't have healing skills, healers have DPS skills.
    I think you missunderstood lol

    I was saying: Healers "have to do" 2 jobs at once: Healing and Dpsing?
    But DPS/Tank classes only DPS/Tank and dont heal the party? They only do 1 thing?

    In Short
    (In dungeons: )
    Healers = Healers
    Not Healers = DPS + Healer class
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    Last edited by AsahinaMyLove; 05-23-2017 at 03:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    I think you missunderstood lol

    I was saying: Healers "have to do" 2 jobs at once: Healing and Dpsing?
    But DPS/Tank classes only DPS/Tank and dont heal the party? They only do 1 thing?

    In Short
    (In dungeons: )
    Healers = Healers
    Not Healers = DPS + Healer class
    Tanks don't do DPS in this game? And Bards and Machinists don't use support abilities, because they're DDs and not support, obviously...

    Sarcasm aside, all jobs in this game are meant to use all of their useful abilities in a way that's most beneficial to their party. There's no reasonable justification to limit your performance only to certain set of abilities - for any job.
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    I think you missunderstood lol

    I was saying: Healers "have to do" 2 jobs at once: Healing and Dpsing?
    But DPS/Tank classes only DPS/Tank and dont heal the party? They only do 1 thing?
    Most DPS have support skills they should be using. E4E, Goad, Virus, Mage's Ballad - thats not DPS, but they should be doing them. Should they not use those skills because they don't do damage? Plus, proper DPS rotations are harder than any healers'.
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    I think you missunderstood lol

    I was saying: Healers "have to do" 2 jobs at once: Healing and Dpsing?
    But DPS/Tank classes only DPS/Tank and dont heal the party? They only do 1 thing?

    In Short
    (In dungeons
    Healers = Healers
    Not Healers = DPS + Healer class
    Tanks have DPS stances currently and that trend continues in Stormblood. Unlike healers they still have to shift between the two. What they did for us starting in Stormblood is made it so that we don't have to cripple our healing ability to use our DPS skills. Our damage will scale off mind so 'stopping dps' will be as easy as cancelling our cast and tossing out a heal. No more worrying about switching stances and someone dying before you can get a heal out.
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    Ximena Reign
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    Zalera
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    Scholar Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    I was saying: Healers "have to do" 2 jobs at once: Healing and Dpsing?
    But DPS/Tank classes only DPS/Tank and dont heal the party? They only do 1 thing?
    Think of it less like having to perform two roles, and more like "everyone else is hitting something every 2.5 seconds, I only have to heal like three times per minute, and I have these skills at my disposal that are useful, so why not use them?"

    All of those damage skills are part of the job, and it's not like you're expected to dps in the same way a dps does, with a rotation and cooldowns and all that jazz. You aren't ACTUALLY performing two roles at all.
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    Last edited by Keydah; 05-23-2017 at 04:10 AM.
    There is no apostrophe in Au Ra.
    Stop adding one three years later.

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