Cleric Stance is dead!

[Leanna]

No clue whats this thread about - no source anywhere!

Healers are healers. I Still wont DPS at all lol... people these days...
Or DPS classes can heal the party?

DPS Classes doesn't have healing skills, healers have DPS skills.

[Zojha]

DPS Classes doesn't have healing skills, healers have DPS skills.

I'm all for rectifying that, tho.

But healers might no longer be taken into content as a result, considering how low it's tuned on healing.

[akaneakki]

Tell me, why is it that some players see this only as an excuse to kick more players? You're illustrating one of the things that many will call 'toxic' in our community, please stop.

What? Do you know you can report people for stalling/keeping them hostage in duty finder? It's toxic if you gonna be lazy and barely play with other people around. So I don't get why it's toxic to kick someone who obviously do it on purpose.

[MomomiMomi]

Exactly what I wanted. I'm happy with this.

[Keridwyn]

Healers are healers. I Still wont DPS at all lol... people these days...
Or DPS classes can heal the party?

No hate, just a question here from a fellow healer. Will you also not cast things like Stoneskin, Protect, or any other support ability that doesn't directly heal your party? Because yes, healers are healers, we have an amazing range of support abilities including buffs, barriers, cleanses, and dps. So if you don't see the value in dps because it's not a heal, are the other support abilities also without value?

[Arrius]

Regardless of the class you should always be doing something with every GCD some healers have been using the excuse that they cant dps because they are afraid of being stuck in CS and often stand around doing nothing for extended periods of time or do pointless over healing. Now you can cancel a offensive spell and immediately heal so every healer should at least attempt to contribute to dps when the situation allows it, I am not saying kick people for not doing maximum dps.

The reason healers don't get a challenge anymore is because we are hopelessly overgeared on the current content, with mass pulls on tanks easily being survivable and whatnot.

I hope the dungeons we will get on the expasion will provide more diversity and intelligent management of cooldowns to get through them. Until we overgear those as well, I guess.
Think of Dun Scaith on release week.

[Khemorex]

What? Do you know you can report people for stalling/keeping them hostage in duty finder? It's toxic if you gonna be lazy and barely play with other people around. So I don't get why it's toxic to kick someone who obviously do it on purpose.

u can also kick people for different playstyle ^^ , so the arguments is not really leading to anywhere as long people , play the game just to find something to bitch at each other XD

[akaneakki]

u can also kick people for different playstyle ^^ , so the arguments is not really leading to anywhere as long people , play the game just to find something to bitch at each other XD

My point. I'm doing expert roulette the same one for 2 months, well not me but others do and they will obviously go insane doing so. Yes there are other content but expert gives you the fast tomestones. So when you done it for so long it's a battle going in and out fast. I'm not expecting raid level to do it, I'm expecting effort. So don't say anything else if you gonna quote me on this. How is it fun to play a MMO with other REAL PLAYERS,doing nothing? What's the point of playing then? It feels like people love to defend those people. It's not bitching when we don't wanna play for another player while we already have our own thing to do, how hard is that to get? How in the hell is that bitching?`I'm seriously mind blown right now.


Anyways back on topic. The changes are welcome and this means people can be dps more as healer. The stance dance made some people scared to try and I can get that, however that will be changed so it's welcome. Now nobody has a excuse anymore.

The reason healers don't get a challenge anymore is because we are hopelessly overgeared on the current content, with mass pulls on tanks easily being survivable and whatnot. .

Week 1 for FC's raid group, both healers did over 800 dps in 9-10 savage. In 11 was a bit tough obviously. But people still dpsed, knowing what would come, they would be prepared before the tank buster would happen. This was clearly in ilvl250 gear, so not overgeared.

[Kosmos992k]

So you just /follow and go afk? Good for you! But I don't want to see you in my party.

You seem very familiar with that style of play. I'm not, but then I won't heal content unless I know I can do it well enough to not be a liability.

Get the blacklist ready then. There is a huge difference between trying and not doing your best (which is fine) and doing /follow or "healz onry". No skin off my back if lazies blacklist me.

So, "lazies" is the new "bads"?

If you read what I was saying, which I don't think you did; or have said any previous topic about healer DPS, you'd know that I agree that players should be working to support the group through their primary role and through DPS where possible. I don't agree that it's OK for players to literally do nothing, or Netflix their way through content, that's rude and inconsiderate behavior. But prejudging people as you and others are doing is just as rude and inconsiderate, if not more so.

[Averax]

Hallelujah