Square you need to streamline the main story

[MistakeNot]

I don't really see how that would work out being how the game is set up.

Right now it doesn't. In practice you do need to do some amount of dungeon grinding for Exp and/or gear.
It is technically possible to only do the dungeons needed for the MSQ and then never set foot in them again, but that just means you are doing a whole lot of (less efficient) grinding somewhere else.

[MistakeNot]

Me to you, (Auriana Redsteele, MistakeNot) Do not dare tell people what they should find fun or not. I did almost ragequit my alt over it too, do not tell me how I should of/currently felt about doing the POINTLESS TEDIOUS 50 msq quests for Ama. Telling me go 5 different places for no reason is .... just ugh...

But you telling other people that the quests they find fun and interesting are actually tedious and pointless and should be removed is okay?
I see.

[Ama_Hamada]

But you telling other people that the quests they find fun and interesting are actually tedious and pointless and should be removed is okay?
I see.

I said remove the requirement from the MSQ, not the game completely. change them to side quests and make the MSQ with quests that is only relevant to the story, can't be that hard.

[MistakeNot]

I said remove the requirement from the MSQ, not the game completely. change them to side quests and make the MSQ with quests that is only relevant to the story, can't be that hard.

But they are all relevant to the story. Or rather stories because there isn't just one story being told.

The 2.0 - 2.55 MSQ doesn't follow a single, coherent, storyline. It is rather a large number of interconnected stories where the only thing they all share is that the Warrior of Light is the protagonist.
In many ways it is the story of how the player character becomes the Warrior of Light - which makes everything that happens to the character relevant to the story in some way.


This is unlike the Heavensward MSQ which mostly sticks to a single storyline - the ending of the Dragonsong War. (Except for the 3.4 - 3.55 part which sets up things in preparation for Stormblood

[bass9020]

I said remove the requirement from the MSQ, not the game completely. change them to side quests and make the MSQ with quests that is only relevant to the story, can't be that hard.

A similar thing happened in another game I play, now that game isn't known for its story but I did enjoy it regardless for what it was. They attempted to streamline it to make it quicker for new players. Its a total mess and makes no sense. Now part of that could be the devs not wanting to take the time to really pick, choose and edit correctly or it could be that it really isn't worth the time. Recently they added back in some of the quests they took out but label them as side quests, guess what... ITS STILL A MESS! So no its not that easy to rework a whole story of quests.

Maybe down the road they will have a fix and possibly its being thought about now but it shouldn't be rushed. If they choose to rework the ARR quests it better be damn near perfect because for people who enjoy the quests and don't care about rushing to the end, I'm sure they won't be happy.

Clearly Yoshi and SE find selling a jump potion a better option then destroying the MSQs and any substance this game has and many people are ok with that.

[Naunet]

Isn't the entry sub 8 characters max on the account?
1 on each server, 8 in total

Oh for crying out loud... the point is that there are two tiers of subscriptions - one for one character on a server and another to have multiple characters on a server.

It wasn't even a critical point though, so I don't know why y'all are latching onto it instead of addressing the meat of posts.

But you telling other people that the quests they find fun and interesting are actually tedious and pointless and should be removed is okay?
I see.

Literally no one is saying remove quests. We want them to remove the REQUIREMENT to do them to access content. Let us do the dungeons, etc when we reach the appropriate level. let us complete the MSQ when and if we feel like it, rather than funneling us through it every time.

A similar thing happened in another game I play, now that game isn't known for its story but I did enjoy it regardless for what it was. They attempted to streamline it to make it quicker for new players. Its a total mess and makes no sense. Now part of that could be the devs not wanting to take the time to really pick, choose and edit correctly or it could be that it really isn't worth the time. Recently they added back in some of the quests they took out but label them as side quests, guess what... ITS STILL A MESS! So no its not that easy to rework a whole story of quests.

They don't have to change ANYTHING about the actual content of the quests. All they have to do is change the behind-the-scenes that ties unlocking content to completing quests.

Folk have said this multiple times in this thread. I don't understand why y'all are continuing to misunderstand.

[bass9020]

They don't have to change ANYTHING about the actual content of the quests. All they have to do is change the behind-the-scenes that ties unlocking content to completing quests.

Folk have said this multiple times in this thread. I don't understand why y'all are continuing to misunderstand.

No idea what you are reading but almost everyone talks about removing, I'm commenting on that fact. Don't sit here and say no one talked about not removing quests because that isn't true.