5 reasons why PS4 players need a parser in game

[akaneakki]

the tools are there for both ps4 and pc, ppl need to stop asking for the damm parser and use the tools they have in they hands to improve, yoshi say hundreds of time NO, parser is a pretty toxic tool, jerks still go to be jerks with or without thats true, the thing is dont let the jerks multiply and thats is what parsers do all the time.

Wanna know something? There are far more jerks without parser, who call people shit, but they actually underperform by 50% or more. A parser would help againt's this too

Also when people mean shaming; Does it mean someone told you, that you underperformed and you took it the hard way? Or did they tell you, that youre totally shit etc? If last one, report them, I've reported far more people without a parser and they are jackasses and think they do well but they don't. Then if someone told you that you underform without being an ass about it, sorry to say, you are just too sensetive and need to fix that. If a person tells me I'm doing bad, I would listen to advice or look up guides. If someone told me I was shit, I would obviously fix myself, but it would obviously be nice if people actually give me feedback on how I play, not spitting it on me. This is why we have GM's in this game. You report them and that's it. I see soo many people provide screenshots where there is absoluttely NO shit talk, no harm or anything towards other players and yet they find it offensive? My mind is really blown. I would actually be afraid telling people on game or the forums what I eat etc, because it might offend them, knowing they might not like the food I eat lol.

[shao32]

Wanna know something? There are far more jerks without parser, who call people shit, but they actually underperform by 50% or more. A parser would help againt's this too

i go to tell you something, i main DRK but for raid things i was to do A12S with my second main monk, i learn my rotation reading my tooltips and testing my self in sonte sky..., the dummy of my fc house and dungeons adapting my rotation to the incoming mechanics (in fact im a player how prefer leveling on dungeons bcs there is where i learn to do my job and see if im underperfomming far better that any other place), i play on pc and the only time i see my numbers in a parser only show me what i already know, being top dps of the run.

parsers are a knife, you can use it to cut you bad habits or to stab it in the players neck with a kick, idk you but i play other MMO where they have oficial parser and the comunity exigencys are pretty toxic most of the time, there is a lot of jerks as you say underperforming but they are a lot more waiting to have a legal form to spit on others face, so no matter what im with yoshi, western comunity need learn how to help each other and have mutual respect and stop, the mentor system is a proof a parser go to be a lot worse.

second part i dint see

you know i meet players how underperforming too in my runs, dragoons dont using blood of dragoon, blm doing bad, ect, stop the run and start to explaing the jobs mechanics are pretty agresive from my point of view and i dont know the player mood, instead of that i preffer let the player know he is underperfoming and watch vids and use stone sky can help it to be a awesome X job if he want, just to let it know, what he do is depend of hem, im not a player how expect every one do a super excelent work with they job, i always ready to adap my self, so thats why no matter what role i play i never find or get those salty moments as many ppl presumes to have.

so what is better? have jerks how are underperfoming but even if you know they never go to change you know they never how to be able to clear hard content? or have a parser and let the players have free reasons to insta kick everyone how dont meet they dps exxpectations adding even more chance to get salty moments in every place? idk you but for the 1º one you have already tool to dealt with it, all depend of the comunity, for the other one no matter what you do, when the toxic actitudes around parsers infect the game is for ever and you cant remove it no matter what.

[akaneakki]

but they are a lot more waiting to have a legal form to spit on others face, so no matter what im with yoshi, western comunity need learn how to help each other and have mutual respect and stop, the mentor system is a proof a parser go to be a lot worse.

Legal way to spit on others faces? I will say it once more again. Being offensive is still offensive. If someone tells you that you underperform in a nice way, it's not spitting or offensive, simple as that. You say that western community needs to learn how to help each other and have mutal respect. My BF comes from asian culture and he plays with tons of asian players as well in other games and also in FFXIV. What did I learn from it? Respect goes both ways. In japanese/asian culture, if you look at korean/japanese servers even chinese, they ONLY join, knowing they will actually do well, in fact also only join knowing the whole fight too. On western servers as you call them, doesn't do that. What respect is that towards 6-7 other players? Respect? Again goes both ways. If someone joines my group for farm and I KNOW he underperforms, I will tell him/her what to do, as in should look up guides, gives them tips and so on, if they can't deal with it, well that's their choice, but respect the fact I don't want 1 player or 2 wasting other peoples time. People needs to stop thinking giving advice is such a bad thing. You seen it everywhere, forums, reddit and on the game quite a lot. Giving tips to players or asking a simple question; why don't you use darkaside? You get ''you shut up or I tell you how to play'' You call this respect? C'mon.

And let's be honest here, there is bunch of wannabe mentors in this game, most doesn't even know how to play their main class. The real ones are the ones who stay in silent, because they are afraid they get shit on their face for helping someone.
And it's also stupid to say that western community needs to get better, when the actually ones at fault are those who proclaim themselves good to the community but actually build toxic attitude towards others. A parser will tell them (without others telling them) how they perform. This way they know how they perform and they have options: Stop calling people shit, when you know how you perform, get better or simply both. Even if you get better, you have no right to talk shit towards others and this is what soo many people in this forum and game in general been saying.

How about starting to help people and then you will see what I talk about.

Also I know people who plays games with official parsers too. The % rate of people getting better is higher, especially in a combat heavy game such as Blade & Soul. That game requires shitton of dps and they have a parser now. It's funny how many people on this game use a parser but barely few of them actually harras people. Why? Because it's offensive to harras people. What's so hard to understand that?

but if he knew he probably would've either kicked them or spewed vitriol at the person with the lowest DPS. And that's not exactly fair. I was crap at my job

But if he was going to be an asshole towards the person, if he had a parser, you simply report him. You see, people join groups and expect others to do their job, this is totally unfair. There is a lot of silent kicks these days and it's sad how true it is.. Serveral reasons is because they either in denial they do bad, they simply think it's offensive when someone tells them ''hey you are behind on the rest, but I'm more than willing to help you out with rotations and such or send you a guide'' Who is to blame when this becomes offensive? I'm myself afraid to help people out, unless I know them well, other than that I will keep my self shut. Want to know why mentors, the very best ones are quiet too? Same reason as mine. Eeverything is freaking offensive today.

[shao32]

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re read my post i whrite more bcs i miss the second part of you post, and i say "mutual respect" with that means respect in both ways, so please relax.

second you talk about bad aptitudes about players how dont want to lear, is rue i never say we dont have those ones, but you are avoiding the matter as you find toxic bad players you can find toxic elitist players, bad actitude is in both ways lady, from elitist and underperfoming players, parser allow this elitist jerks being more jerks in a legal way, and if we take the "parsers go to improve all performance" thats means the bad underperfoming jerks go to be better and being more jerks that before.

parser is a damm number, a number how dont say absolute nothing new to you, you have already direct tools in the game to perform yourself, its the player actitude in every skill level how need to change not add more and more tools to harras eachother, parsers harras has being proof being a lot worse and have more negative impact in many players that any bad actitude you can find now, i know how japan and asian comunity works in general, we work diferent but not necesary worse at exception of the bad actitudes, i actually enjoy the actual comunity of the game, compared to wow and others this is the heaven and i dont want this heaven turns in a elitist hell.

[YitharV2]

But if he was going to be an asshole towards the person, if he had a parser, you simply report him...Everything is freaking offensive today.

That's true. However, the thing is though you can't report for other people, so the person being harassed would have to do it. My worry is it might discourage the person from doing casual story content.

No, I understand your viewpoint on advice and I agree with it. In fact, I'm on a specific Discord server designed for centralizing job guides and I see stuff posted there all the time about people joining farm parties who don't know their job.

[akaneakki]

That's true. However, the thing is though you can't report for other people, so the person being harassed would have to do it. My worry is it might discourage the person from doing casual story content.

No, I understand your viewpoint on advice and I agree with it. In fact, I'm on a specific Discord server designed for centralizing job guides and I see stuff posted there all the time about people joining farm parties who don't know their job.

Actually you can. My friend got banned from the game for 1 day, because he joked about someone in open chat and his friend clearly didn't know it was a joke, so they reported him and he got it. He never even touched the game for months haha. Oh well..

actually enjoy the actual comunity of the game, compared to wow and others this is the heaven and i dont want this heaven turns in a elitist hell.

I'm calm so I don't need to calm down more. You think this community is nice? I think it's nice too, but is it nice as people claim it to be? Not really. And can we please stop use the word elitist, it's not even a offensive word and you and others try to make it look offensive. Nobody here is screaming about perfect play and nobody is expecting you to play like a god. Please quote people who say that. After you done doing that I will quote people who defend people who are afk/lazy/wipe people on purpose.

[YitharV2]

Actually you can. My friend got banned from the game for 1 day, because he joked about someone in open chat and his friend clearly didn't know it was a joke, so they reported him and he got it. He never even touched the game for months haha. Oh well..

Really? Because I got a different impression from the response I got after I reported that guy for harassment.
http://i.imgur.com/YQ9KiK0.png

[akaneakki]

Really? Because I got a different impression from the response I got after I reported that guy for harassment.
http://i.imgur.com/YQ9KiK0.png

Wow, yeah.... I find it so weird some GM's have different policy but yeah he did talk about someone who didn't play the game for months, then the guys friend he talked about it, saw it in chat and reported. In fact the GM even said what he was getting banned for and it was excactly about what I talked about. Oh well, I',m glad you report for others, but If I was you I would report on your behalf and then explain it's offensive what that person is doing.

[shao32]

I'm calm so I don't need to calm down more. You think this community is nice? I think it's nice too, but is it nice as people claim it to be? Not really. And can we please stop use the word elitist, it's not even a offensive word and you and others try to make it look offensive. Nobody here is screaming about perfect play and nobody is expecting you to play like a god. Please quote people who say that. After you done doing that I will quote people who defend people who are afk/lazy/wipe people on purpose.

im not using the word elitist as a ofensive way, more to descrive a group of players with a specific bad actitude.

and i dont talking about the extreme of going to do a god mode with you class, more about the cases we all hear of players being kicked for dont archive the expectations of certain players in a dungeon her first try, farming is another thing and im not opose to kick really bad players bcs are party finder with players requeriments, im talking about duty finder stuff.
parser go to traslate the high skill and not friendly players actitudes and requeriments on duty finder and dungeons where is land for everyone and where yoshi try to keep intact, and i remember you is not necesary for any actual conten.

and you say the best mentors are the ones how remind silent, he... complety disagree, the best mentors are the ones how are not afraid to recive a bad response and do they job, what the player do is another thing and is in his hands, if you are afraid to recive a bad response for any reason then meaby the sensitive its you, i never stop to give advice to every player i find is performing poorly, and meaby i lucky but i never get a bad answer for anyone in my 4 years i been playing this game, meaby you need find a better way to aproatch to the players and dont get botered about the response, if you stop trying it you can come here and complaing about poorly players with bad actitudes bcs this never go to change if we abandon.

[akaneakki]

im not using the word elitist as a ofensive way, more to descrive a group of players with a specific bad actitude.n.

actually enjoy the actual comunity of the game, compared to wow and others this is the heaven and i dont want this heaven turns in a elitist hell.

Mentors comes in so many different ways. The best ones I've seen stopped helping in public. The same reason I mentioned, people will be more toxic when there is no parser.

You mention people getting kicked from duty finder. On their first try. Have you read the threads on these forums? Many mentors doesn't even stay when it's a low level roulette on their mentor roulette, there is many ''mentors'' who kick people for being new too, so there goes the mentors are great people. I'm not saying all of them are bad, but they exist, in a larger amount than it should be. People get kicked for everything in dungeons these days and do they have a parser? Hell no. If a BRD who is lvl 60 in a expert roulette or a smn doing 1.2k dps and a whm lets say does 1.5k, can you explain to me why the smn is this low? I mean I've been through dungeons where dps is insanely low and I never kick them but I rather stay and help them out. I've gotten good feedbacks but most of the time sadly bad ones. The bad ones usually have an attitude and I kick them, why? They harrasing me so why not?

Quoting you here: ''if you are afraid to recive a bad response for any reason then meaby the sensitive its you'' Sensetive? It's not, it's actually funny how awkward offended they get when I tell them how certain things works and how they should do things if I see something wrong. They get so over sensetive they think I'm offending me, that's the issue and it's funny because you mention people might be too senstive about it. The whole thread is a parser and most are againt's it because they are sensetive about it..

If 8 out of 10 players gets ''offended'' by a smile and some advice, does it motivate me? Or others? Not really. They need to fix their own attitude. A parser would tell them and we don't have to, like I've mentioned already. As long the info is right in front of them, they need to understand that what they been doing is wrong the entire time and some people ACTUALLY try to help out.