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[Kosmos992k]

The only raider who is trash is the one calling someone else dead weight or trash. Each and every person in this game has potential and if people work together as a team with patience any obstacle can be overcome (barring unplayable glitches). No one is trash, it's just the trashy mentality and elitism that gets in the way.

Well said.

[akaneakki]

The OP is just ''trolling'' Idk why people go for the bait xD.

[YitharV2]

Here's the thing, going from a 50ms ping to 100ms is unnoticable

I don't necessarily think this is true considering what was said about double weaving without clipping. That being said, it probably wasn't intended by the developers to double weave.

I think one of the problems with FFXIV is probably tick rate. Someone compared it to WoW here. I think that's the source of a lot of problems, and ping and packet loss just exacerbate the problem, because the way TCP works is that when a packet is lost, the server knows because of the sequence number and a timer so it requests the client to resend it. And then there's also congestion which may delay the packet or drop it at a router. That's fine for stuff like file transfers because you don't need the data right away, but I think it leads to problems in this scenario.

[Kosmos992k]

Thing is people have 100-200 ping thinking its ok for some reason. Most if not all of them are the bad players thst never do anything but dungons.

You're not an idiot, but your opinion is idiocy. The game is designed for anything up to 200-220ms ping. I live in the US and we've always had a 120-ish ping, and it is OK.

[Kosmos992k]

Maybe there is one, go post here: Changes-to-FFXIV-Net-code-could-make-most-Ping-issues-Irrelevant!

That solution, IRC, simply opens the game to clien side abuse. It's not a solution.

[Neophyte]

Why does OP say "business", when he just means "competition"?

And why are others arguing the fact that there are groups out there who joined this competition and have relativly strict selection criteria?

When I join a group by Chaos Raiding Central all members are not suddenly BFFs of mine and maybe we never get "close" at all. So ofc I'd get kicked if performance was an issue if group was advertised as a group who wants to compete with others for fast kills.

Funny is, People here are treating those few dozen "fast"/"pro" groups like an average group of fc members or other people you knowm like "OMG, you're kicking a best buddy just because he got minor ping increase? You're mean people and shouldn't play this funny, relaxing game!!!!"

They not quitted friendship, they kicked him out of the competition for not being competitive. Why do people mix that up?

I myself have a "serious" group consisting mostly of people I don't know on a "personal" level with my main and if I want to raid with my friends/fc (while lockout still in place) I use my alt.
If I get kicked with my main because of performance, I'd have to look for a group with lower standards, which I'd certainly find.

Bad for me, but certainly no "OMG, the world is so cruel and people are mean! *cry*"

Each and every person in this game has potential and if people work together as a team with patience any obstacle can be overcome (barring unplayable glitches). No one is trash, it's just the trashy mentality and elitism that gets in the way.

Is this from the movie "Major League" or from "The Mighty Ducks"?

[Mhaeric]

I don't necessarily think this is true considering what was said about double weaving without clipping. That being said, it probably wasn't intended by the developers to double weave.

Double weaving is more than possible with 100ms ping, which I had for all on 3.0. It's a slight bit easier with 50ms ping, since there's more wiggle room, which is what I have now since the server move. My 175ping back in 2.0 is when double weaving was impossible without clippings a bit. I'd wager that 150 is about the highest you can go and still be able to double weave.

As for noticing a difference, I definitely do between 45 and 90. That said, the difference is extremely small. The biggest difference is being able to stutter step at 60% of the cast bar instead of needing to wait until 75% without interrupting myself. There's also a smoother feel at 45 ping that feels a tad more responsive, but it never felt UNresponsive at 90 ping, so it's just shades of acceptable levels of responsiveness really.

[Transient_Shadow]

If your not afk or offline, or harassing someone then its a reportable offense.

[Sicno]

From Viña del Mar, Chile (South America) I had around 200-220 before, now I'm getting around 370-380.

[XSamsaraLotusX]

To not take you to a raid?
If you cant bring 100% of what the class you play can do why take you over some one that can?