[Data Center USA] Ping increased. Report your changes here.

[Altena]

Unless I'm not doing it right.

Ping statistics for 195.82.50.9:
Minimum = 465ms, Maximum = 556ms, Average = 501ms
Ping statistics for 204.2.229.9:
Minimum = 271ms, Maximum = 545ms, Average = 411ms
Ping statistics for 204.2.229.10:
Minimum = 348ms, Maximum = 532ms, Average = 454ms

My ISP is the only one available in my area, I can't get anything else. I shouldn't have to pay for an alternate program either on top of a monthly sub for a game.

If I'm running the ping wrong though, someone please let me know!

Your ISP is routing you to some wonky places by the looks of it. Though I am not all that knowledgable in this area.

It's not SE's doing here. It's your ISP.
It's almost like saying "I don't want to upgrade my potato computer to play a modern game. I want the latest games to run on my 233mHz Pentium 2."

If you were getting 150ms while living on the east coast, then that should be proof enough, as you should have been sub-100 to begin with.

The only way around this is a VPN. $4 per month for pingzapper. Best investment you can make if you really care about your gaming.
$4 is less than a pack of cigarettes or a beer. Per month. Just trying to put that into perspective.

No offence intended here but I don't buy this whole "I don't want to pay for another service on top of my sub to play a game". If you care enough about playing then the added cost of $4 per month shouldn't be an issue. I have been doing this since pre-2.0 and I never thought twice about it after I started using it.

[LittleChickenNugget]

It IS an issue for everyone who has to PAY for an ADDITIONAL program to play a game with multiple servers. I pay for multiple retainers because apparently the servers can't handle more free retainers. So I pay for additional space and now I have to pay 4$ more to be able to proper heal and dodge? No, that's not happening. It shouldn't have to happen to ANYONE. It's not just me. NO ONE should have to deal with that and it's garbage that, as big as SE is, this is a problem across the board.

[LittleChickenNugget]

I've played with 460 ping before, you have to play a class that is a caster for sprint, and learn boss rotations. Most bosses actually use their special abilities at set intervals. With titan ex, the time periods between tulmults, landslides and weights are around the same, so you eventually get the feel of it, and move before the aoe appears.

You may have to do a server move like I had to when EU Servers moved (this is what made me have 460 ping), to find a server with better ping.

I was going to try a different server but the EU and JP servers are worse, around 500+ ping.
I know I can eventually train myself to deal with the new ping but after so long of being at one, it's like... ugh.
And especially at such a -drastic- increase out of the blue.

[NessaWyvern]

I was going to try a different server but the EU and JP servers are worse, around 500+ ping.
I know I can eventually train myself to deal with the new ping but after so long of being at one, it's like... ugh.
And especially at such a -drastic- increase out of the blue.

Have you tried any ping lowering program thingies like WTFast and Pingzapper? It might help
Before the server move, I had 260 to NA servers without pingzapper, to 180 with pingzapper.
Now with the server move, I have 180 without, and 160 with. There's free trials that you can use, if you want to try them, but not buy them

[Altena]

It IS an issue for everyone who has to PAY for an ADDITIONAL program to play a game with multiple servers. I pay for multiple retainers because apparently the servers can't handle more free retainers. So I pay for additional space and now I have to pay 4$ more to be able to proper heal and dodge? No, that's not happening. It shouldn't have to happen to ANYONE. It's not just me. NO ONE should have to deal with that and it's garbage that, as big as SE is, this is a problem across the board.

You're missing the entire point.

The issue is actually on your side, not SE's.
The issue is YOUR problem.

You can't blame SE for a shonky ISP.
SE should not be expected to move the server next to your house, just because your ISP gives you issues.

In a perfect world, everyone would play the game with 0ms. However unfortunately the way the world works isn't all sunshine and rainbows and sometimes you have play with higher ping, or make compromises and invest more in doing something you enjoy than other people do.

Players have been enjoying this game in much worse situations than you're currently in. WITH pingzapper I was playing on your ping. Though I had no complaints. Not because I have a shonky / fixable issue (ISP) but I had a non-fixable issue (physical location in the world).

Your issue can be fixed. You should be happy that is the case - not raging that you can't be bothered to.

[savageink]

Guess raiding really is srs bsns.

It's mostly just full of serious douchebags...

[Conando]

Eh, I just starting using Mudfish. It's an extra cost, but it's like 2 dollars for months of gameplay at a sub 100 ping again.

[SteadiestShark]

my traceroutes and ping, I'm not sure what to make of it...

https://twitter.com/ooini/status/864987136298242052

The "ms" part means milliseconds. 163ms ping will not equal 3-5 whole seconds of lag (which would be 3000-5000ms ping), although spikes and packet loss could make things feel way worse than 163ms ping.

[Lesan]

I did a little research yesterday, as someone playing from Germany.

German Network until NTT, I simmer at a Ping up to 48 ms.
NTT Frankfurt, the first node in the chain, until NTT Ashburn/Virginia (VA2), I get the usual 'to be expected' 100 ms bump, still playable, even if it makes Dual oGCD or Stance Dance tricky. Sitting at 135-140 ms.
From there, it goes to CA4 (not designated yet, but the hints point to San Jose, or, what NTT calls it on their website, Santa Clara), with another bump of 60 ms. And from there, it goes to CA2/Sacramento, staying in the 200-230 ms range.

It does make some classes questionable to play, at least with the mindset of 'clip GCD or aren't greedy as hell on some 3rd party tool's logfiles, better be slain with a spade iRL' that the NA community has.

[Blindfate]

The move they made was the best move. Two thumbs up!

How about no. Terrible move.