Compromise: Just Charge $5 For Now. Once 2.0 is Out, Then Charge $12

[AamesxDavid]

You see, this is full of ad hominems. You're attacking me instead of the argument.

You say that, but.. my post was quoted right above this, and I don't see once place where that happened.

You're insinuating that I have a secret agenda to pay less for 2.0.

I said the exact opposite. Your solution is to pay full price at 2.0 regardless of how many people will stay, and I simply pointed out that that is inconsistent with your reasoning for wanting a lesser charge up to that point. Far from insinuating a secret agenda, I simply said it would make you more consistent for suggesting such a thing.

You're insinuating that because I didn't mention SE's profit motive in every single sentence I must not be sincere about that motive.

No, I didn't insinuate that - I flat out stated it. Again, consistency: if charging less after 2.0 would make SE more money, you should be in favor of it, yet you claim not to be. If you don't care about SE's profit after 2.0, it's not a good reason to be in favor of a price drop now.

You're suggesting that I don't have a proper case because I used a catch phrase you didn't particularly care for, even though most people understand the meaning of "fully operational" when compared to what we actually got at FFXIV's launch.

No, I'm stating that you don't have a case because your argument, once again, rested on SE's profit and not the state of the game. How many more times do I need to say that all I'm asking for is consistency?

As far as BG people being so hardcore that they ought to love it.. I think you're misunderstanding what it means to be a "rabid fan". Ask any developer - their most hardcore fans are the ones that hate everything new that they do because it doesn't live up to their expectations of being as good or better than what made them a hardcore fan to begin with. Lots of hardcore fans of the Final Fantasy franchise have hated everything since VII. Their words don't hold more weight simply because they enjoyed previous titles. The number of people overall who enjoy the game is what matters.

And for the last time, I'm not arguing that it's possible that it may benefit SE to drop the price. It is. In fact, I'll bold this just to make sure you actually read it instead of making up your version of what I said.

You might be right.

But all I'm saying is that it hasn't been anywhere near proven that you are. So request a real poll, try to get something conclusive before saying that SE should lower its price in the hopes that enough people will stay to make it worthwhile.

And don't abandon the whole concept of price elasticity just because the game has "2.0" after it, because it makes the rest of your argument seem disingenuous.