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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    That's all the individual nodes in the system trying to slowly correct their information. I wouldn't be surprised if the traceroute went to the International Space Station...
    Very few people realize it will take time for all the routing tables to adjust to the new location and settle on efficient routings. I think some believe that SE can magically adjust that from the first moment they go live. The reality is that it will take time for DNS to fully propagate, and routing tables to adjust on all the various trunk nodes that people use without realizing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Very few people realize it will take time for all the routing tables to adjust to the new location and settle on efficient routings. I think some believe that SE can magically adjust that from the first moment they go live. The reality is that it will take time for DNS to fully propagate, and routing tables to adjust on all the various trunk nodes that people use without realizing it.
    Routing tables won't change. IP block assigned to the servers was set up long before the servers were migrated. DNS doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Very few people realize it will take time for all the routing tables to adjust to the new location and settle on efficient routings. I think some believe that SE can magically adjust that from the first moment they go live. The reality is that it will take time for DNS to fully propagate, and routing tables to adjust on all the various trunk nodes that people use without realizing it.
    What's your estimation on time required?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    What's your estimation on time required?
    it might take a few days, if im right. hopefully not much longer than 2 weeks.

    I feel bad now though, i get to play the game without packet loss....how dare i!? O=
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    Last edited by Gumbercules; 05-17-2017 at 09:32 PM.

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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbercules View Post
    it might take a few days, if im right. hopefully not much longer than 2 weeks.

    I feel bad now though, i get to play the game without packet loss....how dare i!? O=
    I would guess anything up to a couple of weeks as well. Even basic DNS changes can take several days to fully propagate throughout the DNS server tree beyond the major root servers. Routing tables in possibly millions of routing nodes will need to update themselves, it's not something SE can push out, it is something that has to happen on its own.

    With regard to ping times though, we've seen reports from players in South America and Europe talking of ping times in the 120-150ms range which is far from poor, and perfectly playable. That demonstrates that the server relocation is not game breaking - as long as the routing between the player and the server is decent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltres View Post
    They are most likely losing all subscriptions from South America. It got unplayable for us.
    No they won't, and no it didn't. People need to stop running around screaming like the sky is falling and understand that the new location itself does not cause egregious ping times, bad routing and poor ISP service does. Better to give it s week or two and complain at your ISP about the bad routing than to quit the game over something that SE cannot ever control.

    Quote Originally Posted by dlgc View Post
    Well, I am in Edmonton, Canada.

    My geographical distance from Montreal is about 2,978km, used to have about 75ms.

    My geographical distance from Sacramento is about 1,774km, and now I have about 94ms.

    I did a brief test with my BLM just now in the game, and I can see no difference in how I performed.
    So, longer geographic distance gave a lower ping time and shorter distance gives a longer ping. I believe that this is a perfect confirmation that it is routing and not geographic location that influences your ping time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I would guess anything up to a couple of weeks as well. Even basic DNS changes can take several days to fully propagate throughout the DNS server tree beyond the major root servers. Routing tables in possibly millions of routing nodes will need to update themselves, it's not something SE can push out, it is something that has to happen on its own.

    With regard to ping times though, we've seen reports from players in South America and Europe talking of ping times in the 120-150ms range which is far from poor, and perfectly playable. That demonstrates that the server relocation is not game breaking - as long as the routing between the player and the server is decent.
    I'd love to see these South America pings. I'm getting 315 right now. it was 200 before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thyranne View Post
    I'd love to see these South America pings. I'm getting 315 right now. it was 200 before.
    270 and 300, both from Brazil.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOthe View Post
    270 and 300, both from Brazil.
    The data center moved physically closer to South America, so the ping should be better than before logically speaking, where it is not, it is likely the result of poor routing, which may improve in the next few days or weeks.

    It's entirely possible that the routing your data is taking right now routs towards the old location and then detours to the new resulting in a more extended ping. As that routing improves and becomes more direct your ping should drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thyranne View Post
    I'd love to see these South America pings. I'm getting 315 right now. it was 200 before.
    170 before, 235 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    With regard to ping times though, we've seen reports from players in South America and Europe talking of ping times in the 120-150ms range which is far from poor, and perfectly playable. That demonstrates that the server relocation is not game breaking - as long as the routing between the player and the server is decent.

    No they won't, and no it didn't. People need to stop running around screaming like the sky is falling and understand that the new location itself does not cause egregious ping times, bad routing and poor ISP service does. Better to give it s week or two and complain at your ISP about the bad routing than to quit the game over something that SE cannot ever control.

    What are you talking about? With proper optizimed tunneling, we get ping in the 200s where before we could get 120-140 which was acceptable. 200 is just enough for me to consider it poor service and not want to pay any subscription.
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