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    Ameela's Avatar
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crystallin View Post
    The only thing I'm really wishing for is our hero doing more in cutscenes. Kinda sick of being the warrior of light and needing our other scions or random people doing stuff while we watch.
    I think the problem with that is that they have to account for the player's class so action scenes involving the Warrior of Light are pretty hard.
    I remember being super disappointed in the 3.1 MSQ when we didn't get to clash with the Warrior of Darkness and instead it was Thancred, but after thinking about it, what would they do for people who play WHM or SMN? It's not like they can make a different version of the cutscene for every class, so it's easier to just have all the fights the WoL is involved in be actual gameplay.
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    Sakura Yukimoto
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    I think the problem with that is that they have to account for the player's class so action scenes involving the Warrior of Light are pretty hard.
    I remember being super disappointed in the 3.1 MSQ when we didn't get to clash with the Warrior of Darkness and instead it was Thancred, but after thinking about it, what would they do for people who play WHM or SMN? It's not like they can make a different version of the cutscene for every class, so it's easier to just have all the fights the WoL is involved in be actual gameplay.
    Yeah, even in situations like 3.1's introduction of the WoD, we could have had a fight instead with the objective being "Survive" and the duration of the instance being say... a minute or two. Just dodging AoEs and stuff, it'd be a "hopeless boss fight" and even if you lose it still plays the cutscene of you getting your ass handed to you so Thancred can do his big damned hero moment.

    Alternatively, they could have us clash armaments in various ways. Samurai, Red Mage, Dark Knight, Paladin can share animations, so can Warrior, Dragoon, White Mage, and Black Mage. There's also Monk and Ninja, as well as Scholar and Summoner. That only leaves Machinist and Astrologians as the odd ones out, but Machinists could just do a combat roll and I'm sure AST could just do what Y'shtola did and parry using a barrier of light (Nocturnal Aspected Benefic).
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    Last edited by MiniPrinny; 05-17-2017 at 06:35 AM.
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Bismarck
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiniPrinny View Post
    Yeah, even in situations like 3.1's introduction of the WoD, we could have had a fight instead with the objective being "Survive" and the duration of the instance being say... a minute or two. Just dodging AoEs and stuff, it'd be a "hopeless boss fight" and even if you lose it still plays the cutscene of you getting your ass handed to you so Thancred can do his big damned hero moment.

    Alternatively, they could have us clash armaments in various ways. Samurai, Red Mage, Dark Knight, Paladin can share animations, so can Warrior, Dragoon, White Mage, and Black Mage. There's also Monk and Ninja, as well as Scholar and Summoner. That only leaves Machinist and Astrologians as the odd ones out, but Machinists could just do a combat roll and I'm sure AST could just do what Y'shtola did and parry using a barrier of light (Nocturnal Aspected Benefic).
    Well in that specific incident the WoL was disoriented from their echo vision which is why they, and Krile, were sluggish in reacting. The WoD recovered much quicker. I think its fine for the WoL to take a back seat occasionally, if nothing else to showcase the fact that our allies are actually competent and highly skilled. As long as the WoL isn't always just standing by the whole time and when they do they have a good reason to.

    Regardless, actually making the WoL fight in the cutscene, and making it look good, would be very work intensive. Each Job would need a version (so 15 versions) and each version would need to be adapted for every race/gender combination. That is a huge amount of work for just one cutscene. They could probably do a whole series of cutscenes with the time and resources it would take to do just that one.
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    Crystallin Silvante
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    Regardless, actually making the WoL fight in the cutscene, and making it look good, would be very work intensive. Each Job would need a version (so 15 versions) and each version would need to be adapted for every race/gender combination. That is a huge amount of work for just one cutscene. They could probably do a whole series of cutscenes with the time and resources it would take to do just that one.

    Okay first, I want to say I'm not picking on you here, Belhi.

    But this kind of response reads to me as "Well they can't do it cause they're lazy." I'm sorry, they are a multi-billion dollar company and rake in tons of cash from our monthly subs as well as the whales who buy stuff on the Mog station. There is no reason, in my mind, that they can't do that extra work to make our hero believeable in cutscenes.
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