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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    How I play is up to my decide
    But how the game is designed and the opinions of others are not. You're just making it harder on yourself really.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    But how the game is designed and the opinions of others are not. You're just making it harder on yourself really.
    no no, not really. I cant fight ifrit w/o sentinel atm but I can later who knows ? also I am not that of a guy want to shiny glow wep either, in other game if it is the top best wep then I ll have no choose but to do it, but in this game there is a different system where you can custom your gear and enchanted it (even though its hard but its decent) <------ w/o those solid backup I wont say that line, really
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  3. #83
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    Eh, not really...you'd have to do some crazy hq'ing and socketing to the current crafter level 50 weapons to come close to beating ifrit weapons. Reason being base damage on weapon has the greatest impact on damage right now.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    that s random pt, not my shell

    ninja edit: and I feel that reply begin to go far away from main topic. How I play is up to my decide
    The way i play is up to me to decide argument goes both ways buddy

    Don't complain that someone decided to play it safe and chose to invite a player that has sentinel over one that doesn't.

    PuGs ALWaYS choose the path of least resistance. You have ls mates if you want to go against th currents. I did
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    Last edited by Raijin; 10-25-2011 at 05:47 PM.

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raijin View Post
    The way i play is up to me to decide argument goes both ways buddy

    Don't complain that someone decided to play it safe and chose to invite a player that has sentinel over one that doesn't.

    PuGs ALWaYS choose the path of least resistance. You have ls mates if you want to go against the currents. I did
    now, lets not point at me and say I complain when I clearly not, all I do is make thing clear that it is random pt


    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    Eh, not really...you'd have to do some crazy hq'ing and socketing to the current crafter level 50 weapons to come close to beating ifrit weapons. Reason being base damage on weapon has the greatest impact on damage right now.
    Dont denied that
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 10-25-2011 at 05:57 PM.

  6. #86
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    Every class should be able to fulfill their role with the tools they were given. The fact that, for example, Gladiators need to level several jobs just to be effective is poor balance, and should have been fixed by now.
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  7. #87
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    It takes 3 hours to get from 1-36 if that... Instead of being stubborn about it, why not just level it up because it's useful even on a caster. Don't you like to solo? Don't you want to survive? 3 hours out of your day is not going to kill you. So seriously get over it.

    This is the whole point of the armory system so you can customize your class and take advantage of other classes abilities. You sound like you don't want to progress because you have to level up for a few hours... I mean really? Stop whining and just get it. I'm not even an elitist and I'm telling you that you're being ridiculous.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    that s random pt, not my shell

    ninja edit: and I feel that reply begin to go far away from main topic. How I play is up to my decide
    If how you play is up to you to decide, then who those leaders (the one that requires you to have Sentinel) wants to invite is up to them to decide?

    If you are not happy, start a party that does NOT require Sentinel, based on the reply here, I am sure you can get more than a full group to go, and yes you can beat it, I've done it with over half the party doesn't have Sentinel or missed their Sentinel.

    One of the TA run I went to yesterday, we were killing so fast that 5/8 missed the Sentinel cause they popped it right before the nails come out, and we still pulled through with 3 dead lancers after hellfire (I guess what you are going to say next is nerf chainspell, cause we got everyone back up thanks to that).
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    Last edited by KyrsIsley; 10-25-2011 at 06:18 PM. Reason: typo

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    This post is totally wrong. THIS is the essence and the beauty of the armory system: You level other classes to make your main class stronger.

    Does Sentinel make you stronger on the Ifrit fight? It sure does.

    Is it required? NO. I have killed Ifrit 30+ times and my gladiator is 21... and I'm not dying on hellfire.

    But from a PuG perspective, you assume most people are bad to begin with, so naturally people will look for those that are "most likely" to survive, noone wants to waste their time. If you're not happy with this you can make your own group of non-sentinel people and see how that goes!
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    Last edited by neizero; 10-25-2011 at 06:22 PM.

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    come patch 1.21, solving issues and giving specific roles for party play.
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