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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    1. Does not matter, the person being on the receiving end has a responsibility not to be toxic. Even if the OP said it in that way, the person that the OP should still get reported. 2 wrongs don't make a right, even if 3 lefts do.

    2. So people can get an understanding to treat people better in the future? what a concept! Also fulfilling a curiosity why they did not do so. Is it really that hard to understand some people just like to know things for the sake of knowing?
    You would be best just to bow your head and move on, you are adding nothing to this conversation. He could of easily of avoided the situation altogether. I do like my idea though, grow a backbone (seriously, you get triggered over that particular word? Hate to see if someone called you much worse) and don't bother GM's with such petty trivial crap. I would still be VERY interested in seeing the chat log (with name blocked out of course). I believe the whole story is not being said here.

    I appreciate though, the best thing you could reply to me was, repeating the TOS. You know, the majority of us know what it says and we just move on from people like that (or just don't care that they "could" be reported. Why would I want to waste my time, or the GM's, with this trivial stuff? I fall in that category). You seem like your ready any time of the day to start with people in game.

    Like I said though, Just best to bow your head and move on at this point.

    P.S. Majority of people aren't going to change their behavior because of you reporting them to the GM. Just an fyi for you.

    Have a good one~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Last time I seen that was, doing MSQ with a friend like a week ago, friend was trying to help someone new, explaining weapon effect on healing potency and so on, and some random outsider of the convo bard went off on my friend saying people should not tell people want to do or something, kick passed.
    You are saying this, similar to what the OP is saying, but we have no proof of the words exchanged between said parties. No one can some up with a chat log to defend their position it seems.
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    Last edited by Nyerieri; 05-04-2017 at 01:43 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    EtherRose, You are so wrong it is utterly outrageous please remove yourself from this community.
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    I don't really understand these threads... it's very unfortunate, but it's hardly stealing when you've given someone permission to take things!

    If there's a tab everyone can access, it should only be used for junk/stuff you don't mind disappearing. But... logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyerieri View Post
    You are saying this, similar to what the OP is saying, but we have no proof of the words exchanged between said parties. No one can some up with a chat log to defend their position it seems.
    IDK why people are still going on about this proof thing when the intention of this post was simply for peoples input on whats actually justifiable and not based on the TERMS OF SERVICE....you know the RULES of the game. This post is not about proof or sides or getting people on my side. So stop trying to make this about taking sides or seeing proof when that isn't even something that matters to me. It doesn't matter who started what. Breaking the rules is breaking the rules and whether both sides did wrong or just one side did wrong. Doing wrong is still not excusable and should have consequences either way. Because the rules dictate such. The rules are not a debatable thing, they are there and worded clearly so people know what and what not to do in the game. If you break them you get punished. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    IDK why people are still going on about this proof thing when the intention of this post was simply for peoples input on whats actually justifiable and not based on the TERMS OF SERVICE....you know the RULES of the game. This post is not about proof or sides or getting people on my side. So stop trying to make this about taking sides or seeing proof when that isn't even something that matters to me. It doesn't matter who started what. Breaking the rules is breaking the rules and whether both sides did wrong or just one side did wrong. Doing wrong is still not excusable and should have consequences either way. Because the rules dictate such. The rules are not a debatable thing, they are there and worded clearly so people know what and what not to do in the game. If you break them you get punished. Simple as that.
    Grow a backbone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    EtherRose, You are so wrong it is utterly outrageous please remove yourself from this community.
    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    I don't really understand these threads... it's very unfortunate, but it's hardly stealing when you've given someone permission to take things!

    If there's a tab everyone can access, it should only be used for junk/stuff you don't mind disappearing. But... logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyerieri View Post
    Grow a backbone.
    I agree with you.

    Also, one can not argue with crazy. Crazy always wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyerieri View Post
    Grow a backbone.
    You might as well say that to everyone who reports people then. Besides having backbone has nothing to do with whether someone should be reported for breaking rules or not so i don't know why your getting off subject here. Instead of saying something like "grow a backbone" why not try presenting an actual thought out and intelligent counter view/point .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    You might as well say that to everyone who reports people then. Besides having backbone has nothing to do with whether someone should be reported for breaking rules or not so i don't know why your getting off subject here. Instead of saying something like "grow a backbone" why not try presenting an actual thought out and intelligent counter view/point .
    I absolutely would say this to anyone that reports someone for saying something "offensive" or "profane". In my humble opinion it has everything to do with whether someone should be reported or not. They should not be. If you have the inclination to report someone when they say something that hurts your delicate little sensitivities, then perhaps online games are not for you. I asked before, but what actual harm did these people do to you? (other than the whole FATE thing (which doesn't count))

    What would be the point of reporting them? Would it make you feel powerful? Like you stuck it to those big meanies? I just don't get it, man. I just don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    You're a warrior of light and can't even defeat Twintania with a 20% echo buff? Thanks for the offer but I'll find someone else to save the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadmar View Post
    I absolutely would say this to anyone that reports someone for saying something "offensive" or "profane". In my humble opinion it has everything to do with whether someone should be reported or not. They should not be. If you have the inclination to report someone when they say something that hurts your delicate little sensitivities, then perhaps online games are not for you. I asked before, but what actual harm did these people do to you? (other than the whole FATE thing (which doesn't count))

    What would be the point of reporting them? Would it make you feel powerful? Like you stuck it to those big meanies? I just don't get it, man. I just don't.
    For my opinion on this one..........well i don't need a wall of text to show my view on this as i can just say: What is wrong with someone being sensitive or wishing others would be more respectful and abide by the games rules. With your logic it sounds like if you were to run this game it would be a place full of poverty and jerks. Not everyone is like you and can take someones abuse or harassment. That is why there is GM's because this is reality and there are sensitive people whether you like it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    For my opinion on this one..........well i don't need a wall of text to show my view on this
    Right because that's my job. I tried, really tried to explain to people the topic itself but we are still at the "You can't assume people holding the fate for you!" subject. I surrender, let's all get some coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Worse, it can even turn against the one filling the report. It wouldn't be the first time of it happening.
    It all depends on what OP said first.
    No it doesn't GM told me differently. The other person needs to report. GM reports are dealt with on a one way basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyerieri View Post
    You would be best just to bow your head and move on,
    Just like now, I am now doing that, since you want to defend something nonexistent to start a never ending conversation. You do not need chat logs, proving stuff to you is not worth my time, as it would take too long to find them. GMs do no abide by SS anyway. It is funny how you accuse me of starting things with people when you are doing that very thing to me now.

    At the end of the day it is simply this, The OP has every right to contact a GM, as that reply breaks the ToS, If the TC broke the ToS themselves and the other person reported them as well, then they both get hit with something, that simple.

    Nyerieri.. telling people to grow a backbone and yet had the nerve to say "You seem like your ready any time of the day to start with people in game." someone is clearly lacking people skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    IDK why people are still going on about this proof thing when the intention of this post was simply for peoples input on whats actually justifiable and not based on the TERMS OF SERVICE....you know the RULES of the game. This post is not about proof or sides or getting people on my side. So stop trying to make this about taking sides or seeing proof when that isn't even something that matters to me. It doesn't matter who started what. Breaking the rules is breaking the rules and whether both sides did wrong or just one side did wrong. Doing wrong is still not excusable and should have consequences either way. Because the rules dictate such. The rules are not a debatable thing, they are there and worded clearly so people know what and what not to do in the game. If you break them you get punished. Simple as that.
    was answered several times though:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    Nope, if I shouted to ask to hold a fate, and no one does, I get there and see the person I will ask. I done it before and some of the answers I got was "sorry did not see chat" or "I tried holding but so and so did not" and I moved on. A reasonable person does not spew toxic filth over a question, and I kicked people out of DFs before because of it.

    Last time I seen that was, doing MSQ with a friend like a week ago, friend was trying to help someone new, explaining weapon effect on healing potency and so on, and some random outsider of the convo bard went off on my friend saying people should not tell people want to do or something, kick passed.
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