Should i stop taking crap from people and just start reporting?

[SenorPatty]

Well, I see two main problems with this:

-You assumed that people would pay attention to chat or even comply with your request, which they don't have to.

-You confronted them.

First, I have no idea how you confronted them. You say they responded with foul language. I don't see a screenshot of your convo to not only prove what they said is true but much less on what you said.

Going back to the first point, while there's nothing wrong with asking, in equal measure, there should be nothing wrong with getting a refusal. Especially in the context of a mmorpg and even more so when you and those people were not grouped together to complete a common goal. The fact that you went to ascertain if person is a "jerk" for not holding the fate means you have not accepted that people can just do things as they please on a map without someone's approval or request. All stakes in a non instance map is equal and unless you make peace with that, every person from then on who won't heed your request, you'll find yourself confronting them for meaningless reasons.

Edit: To conclude though, if you truly did "respectfully" confronted them as you implied, and they responded in that matter, then you did the right thing reporting them. Insults are no way to communicate with someone.

[Tamlen]

If they really did call you that, you definitely can report them. People do get in trouble for a lot less than using directed slurs and profanity.
Not holding a FATE, though, is not a reason to report someone as it's only them playing the game as intended.
Also note that anything you said can get you in trouble, as well.

[Mizunoko]

Well, I see two main problems with this:

-You assumed that people would pay attention to chat or even comply with your request, which they don't have to.

-You confronted them.

First, I have no idea how you confronted them. You say they responded with foul language. I don't see a screenshot of your convo to not only prove what they said is true but much less on what you said.

Going back to the first point, while there's nothing wrong with asking, in equal measure, there should be nothing wrong with getting a refusal. Especially in the context of a mmorpg and even more so when you and those people were not grouped together to complete a common goal. The fact that you went to ascertain if person isa "jerk" for not holding the fate means you have not accepted that people can just do things as they please on a map without someone's approval or request. All stakes in a non instance map is equal and unless you make peace with that, every person from then on who won't heed your request, you'll find yourself confronting them for meaningless reasons.

Edit: To conclude though, if you truly did "respectfully" confronted them as you implied, and they responded in that matter, then you did the right thing reporting them. Insults are no way to communicate with someone.

You seem to go back to the whole fate thing which is only the context. This is not about the fate in general. The whole point to this was that people seem to think more and more that they can just go spouting swear words and harass others and just get away with it. Not once did i ever expect him to hold the fate or even respond to me
contacting him to see if he did it on purpose or not (although some people do see that as a rude thing to do when they happen to see the chat). It's obvious that's his choice. Your responses are completely aside from my main point which is that people need to stop taking things to such a profain level and being salty without even understanding the situation. It is a childish thing to do. As for the confronting him thats simply my choice to do and there is nothing wrong with confronting someone. Confontation is not just an offensive or bad thing, its also a way people can work things out or solve a situation. If i want to confront him and find out if he did that on purpose or not it's my choice and there's nothing wrong with that. It is obvious no one is obligated to do something someone asks as far as things like this is concerned, however there is also nothing wrong with wishing that people would be more considerate and decent. It's about manners and decency, not obligation. There are people who would have held that fate if they saw someone ask for it to be held and there are people who would not, and my OPINION is that the people who would choose to just rush the fate and ignore said person in need of a little time to get there are simply not decent people. As for anyone asking for screenshots and proof i do not care to upload one because to me this isnt about whether someone believes my argument or not on this as its more about seeing what other people think on such a situation and not about taking sides. Whether i want to know if someone is a jerk is my choice and in no way is conclusive to me not accepting that people can do what they want. If that were the case i would not have emphasized that he wasn't obligated to hold the fate and i would have made this whole situation about the fate, which i didn't. This was about the harassing, rude, disrespectful, profain manner he acted which ive stated multiple times that somehow seems to just fly above your head and you keep missing.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Not to be that guy, but the game has a profanity filter. if offensive words offend you, use it. And dont provoke people.

[Mizunoko]

Not to be that guy, but the game has a profanity filter. if offensive words offend you, use it. And dont provoke people.

I don't know how but somehow i didn't even know about the profanity filter till the gm told me about it 2 hours ago. I turned that thing right on i will say that much. I have kids that constantly are running around the living room and glancing at the tv so id prefer my kid not randomly asking me what certain swear words mean. As for the provoking thing. Confronting someone is not provoking someone. They have 2 different definitions and can mean different things depending on the circumstances, so i don't know where your getting this provocation thing from lol.

[Natashio]

I don't know how but somehow i didn't even know about the profanity filter till the gm told me about it 2 hours ago. I turned that thing right on i will say that much. I have kids that constantly are running around the living room and glancing at the tv so id prefer my kid not randomly asking me what certain swear words mean. As for the provoking thing. Confronting someone is not provoking someone. They have 2 different definitions and can mean different things depending on the circumstances, so i don't know where your getting this provocation thing from lol.

Huh..not sure how you didn't know that there's a filter, when the thing is set on "On" by default. Unless you turned it "off" long ago and forgot about it. In any case, I'm pretty sure it isn't going to filter every slur known. The point is don't provoke.

[LunaFaye]

Problem here is simple, while it is questionable on grounds of morale or good behavior, it's not falling under the category of harassment and that's what a GM would be looking at. As well as both sides of the conversation, if you snapped at them or snapped back, depending on the conversation both parties involved had/have.

While I am not going into that whole thing about the fate, since it's irrelevant, could also have happen anywhere in game, the issue here really lays on "just" being rude and a GM will tell you to blacklist the person you've had trouble with, as well as telling the other one to blacklist you.

If you're lucky everybody gets away with a warning depending on the chat log but that's about it, if that ticket even will be answered differently then "blacklist the person and move on".

Now it would be different if actual harassment would have been involved, GM's get on something like that real quick and that's great, but a lot of people misuse that function and report something that doesn't even fall into that category. Not saying you are one of these people, just in general trying to explain, when and where someone should report somebody.

We all have seen lately or throughout the years a change in community behaviors or gamer's in general, it isn't just ffxiv, but I just think people need to learn to respect each other and if that's not happening well then there would be the blacklist as an option or reports if it goes further then that.

In your case, as bad or frustrating as it might have been for you, or maybe even for the other side, depending how you started the conversation at first, there's nearly nothing that can be done. If you feel that you reached a point, where you think that your server community is getting worse by the minute, maybe it's time for you to transfer. I don't mean that as an insult, but sometimes it's a better solution and starting new somewhere else, then logging into the game everyday with the mind set of meeting "rude" people, if that makes sense.

[Mizunoko]

Huh..not sure how you didn't know that there's a filter, when the thing is set on "On" by default. Unless you turned it "off" long ago and forgot about it. In any case, I'm pretty sure it isn't going to filter every slur known. The point is don't provoke.

Ya.......its obvious that you were making a point to "not provoke" and my counter was that you don't know that i was provoking him because you do not know what was said......i mean saying don't provoke someone when you have no idea if povocation actually took place is kind of redundant. Please try to understand things and don't give points to something that may not even be relevant because you don't know enough information to use such points. With that logic its like me saying "why did you steal my cookie" without even know if said person took my cookie or not first. Please read what is said before you start blindly making points to irrelevant things.

[Mizunoko]

Problem here is simple, while it is questionable on grounds of morale or good behavior, it's not falling under the category of harassment and that's what a GM would be looking at. As well as both sides of the conversation, if you snapped at them or snapped back, depending on the conversation both parties involved had/have.

While I am not going into that whole thing about the fate, since it's irrelevant, could also have happen anywhere in game, the issue here really lays on "just" being rude and a GM will tell you to blacklist the person you've had trouble with, as well as telling the other one to blacklist you.

If you're lucky everybody gets away with a warning depending on the chat log but that's about it, if that ticket even will be answered differently then "blacklist the person and move on".

Now it would be different if actual harassment would have been involved, GM's get on something like that real quick and that's great, but a lot of people misuse that function and report something that doesn't even fall into that category. Not saying you are one of these people, just in general trying to explain, when and where someone should report somebody.

We all have seen lately or throughout the years a change in community behaviors or gamer's in general, it isn't just ffxiv, but I just think people need to learn to respect each other and if that's not happening well then there would be the blacklist as an option or reports if it goes further then that.

In your case, as bad or frustrating as it might have been for you, or maybe even for the other side, depending how you started the conversation at first, there's nearly nothing that can be done. If you feel that you reached a point, where you think that your server community is getting worse by the minute, maybe it's time for you to transfer. I don't mean that as an insult, but sometimes it's a better solution and starting new somewhere else, then logging into the game everyday with the mind set of meeting "rude" people, if that makes sense.

THANK YOU........its about time someone actually read and understood what im trying to get through to people, and you gave an intelligent objective response which is what i was looking for. I just wish there was a system in place to know if the GM's are doing a proper job too though because i have heard of bad GM's and theres no way to know if the GM took action and what action they took, while i understand that is that way for a reason..its also a double edged sword because people wont know if GM's are doing their job or taking action on CLEAR offenses or not and being calculated to the level of offense. As for the whole situation of my subject isnt him swearing at me and calling me things a violation of the ToS? Last time i read it i'm pretty sure i saw something about profanity in there.

[Kewitt]

MMOs, If you need something that is randomly spawned. CAMP IT while doing something else.
Sadly this is the last element of old MMOs and I miss it.