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  1. #141
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    Oriens Nadir
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    You choose to collect everything
    I'm very aware of my choices and do not regret them. The point of this thread is that it's becoming more rampant. I've stated before, elsewhere, the preorder is cancelled and the sub is cancelled. Until I see content worth paying for they are not getting another cent from me for this game.
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  2. #142
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Content is content, however, and one type of content should not be treated differently than the next.
    It should be. Why? Because -I- want it to be. I want to be able to purchase cosmetics for my character. You on the other hand have no right to take away what I have or what I want. Take the hateful envy elsewhere.
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  3. #143
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    It is because you are comparing two radically different features and attempting to draw parallels. You may only care for glamour, however games exist for their gameplay. Without it, you have no game to play whereas the game remains functionally unchanged whether you play it wearing armour or walking around naked. Aesthetics in no way impact this, thus they are not comparable. As for Wildstar... considering it's dire financial state, it's not exactly a great example.
    Without appealing armor appearances, I see very little point in engaging in any combat gameplay. Or are you comfortable running around as a grey box?

    Aesthetics impact gameplay. This is simply fact.
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  4. #144
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Without appealing armor appearances, I see very little point in engaging in any combat gameplay. Or are you comfortable running around as a grey box?

    Aesthetics impact gameplay. This is simply fact.
    This is an MMO, not a dress-up simulator. The focus and primary reason to play this game is NOT to decorate your character, but to go on adventures. Dress-up options are offered as a secondary gameplay feature. This is why folks would be almost universally pissed off if "going on adventures" required paying extra money to the cash shop, but there is much more debate when it comes to cosmetics. You are correct that no one wants to run around as a "grey box", but the game presents an ENORMOUS number of options to enable you to avoid this. There are hundreds of potential glamours available! If this array of options is not enough, SE offers additional options, for a fee.
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  5. #145
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    Ryelle Galashin
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Without appealing armor appearances, I see very little point in engaging in any combat gameplay. Or are you comfortable running around as a grey box?

    Aesthetics impact gameplay. This is simply fact.
    Aesthetics are about your gameplay, they don't affect anyone else. That's why it's acceptable to have them be an optional feature. Nothing anyone else can do is going to compel you to buy glamour items, the same is not true of gameplay advantages. They wouldn't truly be "optional."
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  6. #146
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    Rysir Arcalane
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    Excalibur
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    Machinist Lv 100
    The cash shop always worried me since if it starts going down the wrong path theres no correcting it once it has the game's development in a chokehold. If FF14 turns into another Mabinogi which endgame literally is glamour since no content is worth doing and everyone just AFKs in the main city showing off their cash shop clothes and a cash shop with thousands of clothes,armor and weapons and very VERY slow content updates then Id be quite upset.
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    Oh hey nothing was here

  7. #147
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Its funny because some will say the game is bleeding pop. I find that hard to believe when I read such a post while waiting in a server queue. Won't be the first game I've experienced this in.
    You do know that the que is a lot of times an error on SE server side. Balmung almost always has a que but its fake. 50 or 5 people click it off and reenter instantly. The only time that has never worked was when it climbs to around 1k.

    We are also in the up swing of subs before expansion. 3.3 through 3.4 Balmung actually had character creation open during the days. While that does not directly tie to subs. It does show that players had grown disinterested during that phase of the game.

    Sadly, but also true. If X player buys the equivalent of two lost subs SE has a net gain. Since that player can't consume three players worth of bandwidth, which SE pays for. Right now SE has not seemed to have cross the line of subs lost is more then cash gained from mogstation.
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  8. #148
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    It is because you are comparing two radically different features and attempting to draw parallels. You may only care for glamour, however games exist for their gameplay. Without it, you have no game to play whereas the game remains functionally unchanged whether you play it wearing armour or walking around naked. Aesthetics in no way impact this, thus they are not comparable. As for Wildstar... considering it's dire financial state, it's not exactly a great example.
    I think MMOs have more substance then just the gameplay. At least for me, sometimes I log in just to talk to FC/LS. I would not consider it a strong connection as I most likely would not talk to anyone outside the game/game forums, so for outside the game content it does provide the social aspect is counted as part of the reason I keep my sub going even during the down/slow period leading up to stormblood expansion.
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  9. #149
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    You do know that the que is a lot of times an error on SE server side. Balmung almost always has a que but its fake. 50 or 5 people click it off and reenter instantly.
    It's actually not "fake". When you attempt to enter, your position in the queue is snapshotted. The next time you try to enter, whether it's by canceling and reentering, or by waiting for the timer to attempt to enter you again, it checks to see whether the 50 people ahead of you are in. In pretty much every case, they ARE - it's just that canceling and trying again is faster than waiting for the program to do it (I think the program tries only once every 30 seconds, or something like that). You have not cheated your way in, and the queue is not fake. Those 50 folks ahead of you really were ahead of you, but got into the game in literally less than a second. 50 folks logged out to make room in that small space of time.

    The reason 1k queues seem more "real" is because they happen only when a server has just come up. There's no one logging off to make room; everyone's trying to get in at once, and only so many can do so at a time.
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