This thread should just die off already, the argument has been circular for pages upon pages now.

And OP, you really do deserve a pat on the back for being the most annoying person on the forum all week. Thank you for overusing ellipses (that's when you put ... on the end of your sentences, fyi), ignoring literally any point counter to your own whatsoever, and having the most piss poor reading comprehension of anyone I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with, online or off.