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[Ama_Hamada]

I have no idea how you manage to not understand my points, or are you intentionally ignoring what I have to say?

I need to ask others, because I am confused. Is it clear to you, I was complaining about other instances of ilevel requirement dodging, like the one I shown? Why is it being ignored that several people are refuting phase skipping is a developer oversight? Why is it being ignored the reverse issue also exists, that you wipe due to too much DPS in some cases? Can we have a proper discussion with proof not spouting off opinions as facts?

You do realize, phase skipping exists in most boss fights?????????????????????? over the course of 2 or 3 years or whatever?

[Yeol]

Lets put things this way. If people do content with minimum item level then there are no mechanics skipping.
As you get better gear, phases last shorter and the fight clear time gets shorter.
By the time you have BiS and good dps, you can skip mechanics or skip a whole phase (like niddhog towers, lol imagine if it was 'mandatory' to skip them back then).

Believe me, finding people that can skip is harder than you think. It is not a common thing, it is a group work that includes healers and tanks as well. Which is why many people are complaining now about zurvan.

I still don't believe it is a mistake. It is your reward for being good. And people are finding it fun to speed run hard content to see how many phases/mechanics they can skip.

As long as the content can be cleared without skipping there is no problem. The problem here is that people think skipping mechanics is the norm thing to do.

Skipping content has nothing to do with the subject. And is just an attempt to deflect the discussion.

I already gave my opinion about it in previous post.

[Kaethra]

Skipping content has nothing to do with the subject. And is just an attempt to deflect the discussion.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

How many of you against parser support on ps4 actually do high end raids?
Do any of your party members have parsers?
Do any of you ask a friend to parse you if you are working on a new opening rotation?
Have you ever tried tweaking your stats to see how much of a diffence it makes?
Have you ever tried a different aoe rotation in a dungeon?
you honestly going to say SSS is the equivalent of a parser in any of these situations?
The only way to know how much dps you are actually doing on it is by using the online dummy numbers figured out by those who use parsers.

now the real question is.... how many of you against parsers don't actually care about how much damage you are doing as long as your party can carry you?
do you try to improve? Or just think better gear = better dps.

I do. Cleared all of Coil and Alexander without a parser.
I did once, and didn't feel I personally gained much from it. Practice and some trial and error proved more effective in learning and refining my rotation. But then again, that would imply that it's entirely possible for someone to actually learn to perform well without a parser. . .
No, I know exactly what stats I should have and have geared effectively for that.
I have a free, no TP aoe, on top of all other aoe skills I have.
No, I think SSS is pretty mad as a measuring tool all around.
If you really want to nitpick, one could filter the battle log and do the math themselves. Lots of work, but doable.

And for your "real" question, I care very much about my own personal performance. I don't carry, and won't be carried. I have always sought ways to improve even without being able to use a parser, and at this point, anyone who wishes to play their job well knows that pure item level does not beat proper stats.

You make the VERY wrong assumption through your post that console players and people against parsers are content with being subpar. You make the further wrong assumption that simply having/adding/supporting parsers will make you a better player. If you're going to try to make critical points and ask questions to support it, don't make assumptions.

[Driavna]

You make the VERY wrong assumption through your post that console players and people against parsers are content with being subpar. You make the further wrong assumption that simply having/adding/supporting parsers will make you a better player. If you're going to try to make critical points and ask questions to support it, don't make assumptions.

There is not assumptions, you need proper information and for that you need tools and a place to compare numbers. Without numbers you are no longer using facts just "feelings".

[akaneakki]

Skips are there for a season. It pays for great play but also those for who cant do mechanic and do it in echo. Its true.

[dragonseth07]

It's not impossible to improve without a parser. But it is significantly more difficult, because of the data you can gather and immediately put to use.

[Ashua]

Skipping content has nothing to do with the subject. And is just an attempt to deflect the discussion.

If you want to go back to the subject devs say no to parsers. Dev gets irritated and tries to leave a interview panel when it was mentioned recently. What matters is the maker does not want a parser.

It's not impossible to improve without a parser. But it is significantly more difficult, because of the data you can gather and immediately put to use.

It is not difficult at all. We have training dummies to improve upon and is significantly easier when you can master/learn your rotation before having to tackle content. Plus jobs do not change often between x.0 mega patches so you can have quite an easy time improving yourself which you should before stepping into the high end. Near mastery of your main job is already a requisite to high end raid teams.

[bardaboo]

@ThirdChild. Ok we have 1 person so far. The things i listed are very possible w/o a parser of course. So good on you.
The point of all my questions was to filter out good players from bad. To me it seems most of the players in here are afraid of parsers because they don't want to get booted from dungeons. Anyone who is good at their job shouldn't be concerned.
So. Question for you. Why do you not want in game parsers?

[dragonseth07]

It is not difficult at all. We have training dummies to improve upon and is significantly easier when you can master/learn your rotation before having to tackle content. Plus jobs do not change often between x.0 mega patches so you can have quite an easy time improving yourself which you should before stepping into the high end. Near mastery of your main job is already a requisite to high end raid teams.

I'm telling you that a parser makes it easier, by far. Since I have played with and without them in many MMO's, I feel I can say that with certainty.

I don't doubt your ability at all. I don't. I'm simply telling you that a parser makes self-improvement much faster and easier if you know how to use the tool. Now, if you don't, that's another story. Using a screwdriver as a hammer won't get you anywhere.