Dam. meter

[SmallHobbit]

Beating the dummy should not be required. Average item level for A11S and A12S is il255. But people still downed them with il250 becuase some jobs can buff the overall raid dps A LOT.

the ppl who downed a11s/a12s with ilvl 250 also dosent have any problems to beat the a12s dummy with ilvl 250 gear.
i down the a12s dummy myself with full crafted ilvl 250 gear without any problems.
and YES we need a parser and we want it!

regards hobbit

[bswpayton]

No parsers please, I already got harassed by another player in sophia ex bird farm party, this WHM was looking at my moveset, calling out my dps numbers to everyone in the party. I was very embarrassed and very upset because I didn't ask for my numbers, Noone seemed to complain except that parser, even though I completed it fine. I would not like Noone to feel what I went though, parsing will be used for abuse.

Dps meter or not people will harass, but having a meter should spark within you as a player to do better. I think a personal meter if anyth9ng should be an option like I would like to know if im being a burden on the team in reality when Im thinkin Im just doing so well. A meter want lie , a player can lie to themselves about their dps but having a check there I believe would improve overall performance.

[Jkap_Goat]

I have to disagree with you greatly on that personal meter, people will find ways to abuse that. we already have Stone, sea ,sky for that.

[bswpayton]

I have to disagree with you greatly on that personal meter, people will find ways to abuse that. we already have Stone, sea ,sky for that.

Stone sky is nothing tho I mean literally doesnt account for anything its just a dummy that stands there , death and mechanics effect dps. If Im melee like dragoon doesnt account for me having to move out of an aoe and lose botd thus lose some dps. Doesnt account for all the moving a blm has to do , as a tank I can stay in sword oath or darkside the whole time without having to switch back. I dont know no why people keep referring to this thing its just a glorified striking dummy with a health bar nothing more.

[dragonseth07]

Wuh......!!!



You guys really like to reach...

Take a look at the responses in this thread against parsers, though. People don't want to be called out for underperforming, and that's the toxicity they are referring to.

I get it. No-one likes to be told that they're doing bad. But, it is important to know if you are bringing the group down.

In many games, it's obvious when you're the weak link. DPS in an MMO is not one of those. It's very unclear how much you are contributing to group damage.

[Kaethra]

I have to disagree with you greatly on that personal meter, people will find ways to abuse that.

There's no evidence of this. NONE.

Before I came back to FFXIV I was playing WoW for Legion, and then ESO right before FFXIV. Both games had fully functioning LUA damage meters and parsers. No one was 'abusing' anyone. Even in WoW's big scary population, no one was harassing anyone. The only time I saw parses linked was within a raiding guild I was apart of. In ESO parses were never linked.

There's all this heresay about how people get rimmed for low DPS when meters are available. This is a lie. By spreading such misinformation YOU are being the abuser.

[Canadane]

No parsers please, I already got harassed by another player in sophia ex bird farm party, this WHM was looking at my moveset, calling out my dps numbers to everyone in the party. I was very embarrassed and very upset because I didn't ask for my numbers, Noone seemed to complain except that parser, even though I completed it fine. I would not like Noone to feel what I went though, parsing will be used for abuse.

Wouldn't this be motivation to improve?

[StarRosie]

Wouldn't this be motivation to improve?

If it was offered up politely and in a constructive way? Probably. But it sounds like the parser was used to number shame and bully them. I really hope they reported that person, because that is the very reason Yoshi-P has stated why we won't get parsers. Cause more people will use it to number shame people rather then offer actual advice and constructive criticism.

[CuteWhisper]

I will have to say no to a parser people will find ways to abuse it and bully other people.

[Kaethra]

I will have to say no to a parser people will find ways to abuse it and bully other people.

Saying no to people who would use it legitly is abuse and bullying.