Dam. meter

[Vhailor]

Come on now, give us a damm in game dam. and healing meter. Just make it so it cant be postet if you are scared of a salt flood. Its so annoying and almost game breaking that your game dont supply this.

Firstly, the swear word is spelled 'damn'. That will help make the post more understandable.

Secondly, NO. Meters are influenced by gear as well as skill. I'm in favour of a pseudo-parser that rates a character's performance in a 'red light, yellow light, green light' fashion, assessing how effectively they're using their abilities. That isn't influenced by gear. Nothing approaching a regular parser would be a good idea, though.

[Shougun]

There isn't a parser that can do that with FFXIV.

Not arguing there are parsers that use the log, just letting you know one of the major ones does read from memory and can look at network data (to increase speed/accuracy and amount of possible data points to pull from).

It also happens to be one with a timeline ability so it can begin to look a lot like a DBM addon, increasing player awareness and actually (on an average generic level) increase player capability. (Call out specific moves on screen, remind you of your abilities on cooldown, etc - nothing super cheaty but also DBM wasn't super cheaty either it just offered and enhanced an awareness people normally didnt have so easily).

Also we're both aware on Yoshida's stance and what not, so I'm not screaming "NOOOOOo" lol. I think we're on the same page on what should happen with parsers.

While I understand people's concern against them I don't really believe some of the reasons against it are real (although again, I respect the concerns raised). Like "that community is so bad and this one is so great, because parsers/not parsers" except that's all very anecdotal and if we use that then my personal experience in heavy raiding scene never matches up to their example, I find about the same amount of bad and great/amazing people. Parser in my old heavy raiding experience = life and stress saver, no point to argue and blindly grope about, everyone gets around the table and talks about the issues and to add if you're in a situation where someone is abusing then you leave and block them, its probably not the tool but them as a person that's the issue - ultimately it is always the person and not the tool that's the issue (and in this case equipping a mean person with truth only changes their meanness from nothing to either provable wrong, or at least somewhat useful rude criticism lol). (This paragraph wasn't really directed at you :P)

Of course now in FFXIV I'm super casual so in this case IF they allowed it I'd just make sure I'm not doing awfully .

[Yeol]

Less features is a good thing? I shouldn't be too surprised, I guess. This is the same community that I have seen kick players for playing too well in a dungeon.

3rd party parser is capable of giving call outs already.
Call outs to mechanics, players skills like (Trick attack, Hypercharge, Warrior Pacification..)
It can even call out players names if they have a certain buff/debuff. I don't think you need more than that.


About having an in game parse, SE provided SSS instead. It is a good feature but still needs to provide the player with more information.
Would be nice to have a window pop after 3 minutes or clearning it showing:

Time left: --:--
Crit rate: --%
Misses: --

And maybe show your previous try or best time.

[ShinMetsu]

Less features is a good thing? I shouldn't be too surprised, I guess. This is the same community that I have seen kick players for playing too well in a dungeon.

3rd party parser is capable of giving call outs already.
Call outs to mechanics, players skills like (Trick attack, Hypercharge, Warrior Pacification..)
It can even call out players names if they have a certain buff/debuff. I don't think you need more than that.

More like the community that likes to rely on their own skill rather than 3rd party tools.
Never used those kind of triggers beofre and it quite honestly simply disgusts me when people do. Yes, I find it disgusting.
If you're not capable of doing the content without assistance, then maybe it's not the content you should be doing.

The only 'tool' i would approve of is a 'damage meter', which i'm indifferent about whether there is an official built-in damage meter or not.
It would have upsides and allow people to see their performance in numbers, which would help a lot of people push themselves harder.
But at the same time you have to consider that there are people that just can't play as well, whether it be children, old people, people with disabilties or simply not as capable.
I feel like an ingame parser would make certain aspects of the game quite unpleasant for them, always having the game shove it into their face that they're not as good as others.

[dragonseth07]

More like the community that likes to rely on their own skill rather than 3rd party tools.
Never used those kind of triggers beofre and it quite honestly simply disgusts me when people do. Yes, I find it disgusting.
If you're not capable of doing the content without assistance, then maybe it's not the content you should be doing.

You look at these things like crutches, and while they can be in some cases, my experience in other games is that they are primarily tools that skilled and knowledgeable players use to push their gameplay to even greater heights.

Imagine being able to mouse over heal and have it not mess up your GCD. Just think of how much more efficient your play could be. Imagine being able to actually customize your UI to what you wish it could be, instead of working with SE's limitations.

[RLofOBFL]

I would like if at least SSS dummies told you damage numbers...

[Remus]

Just do what B&S does and put it in raid/extreme content only where it would be required simple as. I guess SE is just protecting their players from seeing the truth of how they perform.

[Natashio]

Just do what B&S does and put it in raid/extreme content only where it would be required simple as. I guess SE is just protecting their players from seeing the truth of how they perform.

Wuh......!!!



You guys really like to reach...

[dragonseth07]

Wuh......!!!



You guys really like to reach...

Take a look at the responses in this thread against parsers, though. People don't want to be called out for underperforming, and that's the toxicity they are referring to.

I get it. No-one likes to be told that they're doing bad. But, it is important to know if you are bringing the group down.

In many games, it's obvious when you're the weak link. DPS in an MMO is not one of those. It's very unclear how much you are contributing to group damage.

[Atlas-04]

I would rather not go back to the days of WoW where people spam the addon "recount" in chat to call out under performers or to flaunt their e-peen.