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[dotsforlife]

Let me go find the page where it says parsers are against ToS.

"we would like to remind players that using third-party programs, parsers, or other tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service, and will be dealt with strict disciplinary action."

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Actually, parsers aren't against ToS. The link you provided isn't the ToS. This is: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

Also OP, everyone knows the stance Yoshi and crew has on parsers, so I don't know why these threads keep popping up. At best I'd say they tweak the existing Idyllshire Dummy tests to include actual numbers. That in itself is a longshot though.

[Stitches1974]

Actually, parsers aren't against ToS. The link you provided isn't the ToS. This is: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

Also, everyone knows the stance Yoshi and crew has on parsers, so I don't know why these threads keep popping up.

An official notice, by SE, that says it's against ToS is the same thing.

Yes, I know Yoshi's stance. Don't let anyone know you run a parser.

EDIT: As for specifics, it most likely be under this:

3. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES
In addition to the License Limitations, there are other activities that you are forbidden from doing in connection with the Game ("Prohibited Activities"). In its discretion, Square Enix may use a variety of methods to deal with violations of this User Agreement and the Prohibited Activities, including, but not limited to, any of the following:

3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players ( I.E. using a parser to tell someone their dps is low )

[CyrilLucifer]

3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players ( I.E. using a parser to tell someone their dps is low )

But the existence of a parser does not automatically imply this.

[Rongway]

3.2 Disruption. You may not in any way disrupt or interfere with the Game experience of other players

The Disruption clause is about things more along the lines of DDoSing people or servers. However, parsers are covered under

2.5 Data Mining. You may not intercept, mine or otherwise collect information from the Game using unauthorized third party software.

[Kaethra]

To be honest, we'll never see anything added. They gave us a log file to parse ourselves. Its it's purpose, you just have to code or download a program to make it happen. There's a few out there. Google them.

2.5 Data Mining. You may not intercept, mine or otherwise collect information from the Game using unauthorized third party software.

There isn't a parser that can do that with FFXIV.

The game outputs a log into your Documents folder in the form of a .txt file. That file can be read by another computer, on another network (if you allow permissions in Windows), while your account is inactive, and FFXIV is uninstalled. By a program that uses an algorithm to make a comparison.

1. That means it is not data mining. Which involves breaking into installed encrypted or obfuscated files or by sniffing IP packets.
2. That also means there is no means to detect (without a felonious root kit in involved machines) the fact that the file was read.

EULA/TOS/CoC doesn't apply to what you said. This has been proven multiple times.

The only things you cannot do, is show someone their damage then say its too low and then take a negative action against them for it, if they joined via Duty Finder. Or name and shame them in a public channel for it, or on the forums (different set of rules governs the forums and goes off this topic). That's it.

You are allowed to remove them from Free Companies, Statics, Premades, and all outside game community type social media things (which you could do for any reason at all). This happens all the time.

[Rongway]

There isn't a parser that can do that with FFXIV.

The game outputs a log into your Documents folder in the form of a .txt file. That file can be read by another computer, on another network (if you allow permissions in Windows), while your account is inactive, and FFXIV is uninstalled. By a program that uses an algorithm to make a comparison.

1. That means it is not data mining. Which involves breaking into installed encrypted or obfuscated files or by sniffing IP packets.
2. That also means there is no means to detect (without a felonious root kit in involved machines) the fact that the file was read.

EULA/TOS/CoC doesn't apply to what you said. This has been proven multiple times.

This is patently untrue. There are fight playback tools that show detail down to every party member's and enemy's position at each fraction of a second of a fight. This is not information stored in any log; it's a clear case of someone accessing memory addresses or network packets that they shouldn't, and therefore a clear violation of the data mining clause.

[Nihonnick]

Don't need it, Don't want it. To Toxic.