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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    There isn't a parser that can do that with FFXIV.

    The game outputs a log into your Documents folder in the form of a .txt file. That file can be read by another computer, on another network (if you allow permissions in Windows), while your account is inactive, and FFXIV is uninstalled. By a program that uses an algorithm to make a comparison.

    1. That means it is not data mining. Which involves breaking into installed encrypted or obfuscated files or by sniffing IP packets.
    2. That also means there is no means to detect (without a felonious root kit in involved machines) the fact that the file was read.

    EULA/TOS/CoC doesn't apply to what you said. This has been proven multiple times.
    This is patently untrue. There are fight playback tools that show detail down to every party member's and enemy's position at each fraction of a second of a fight. This is not information stored in any log; it's a clear case of someone accessing memory addresses or network packets that they shouldn't, and therefore a clear violation of the data mining clause.
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    Here's what I don't get. If the responses to questions like this are always the same, and they're sick of answering them, why don't the people who pick which questions get asked at live letters/fanfest just go "Oh. Parser question." Then throw it over their shoulder and pick a new one?

    Don't get me wrong, I'd like a parser too. But if the team are tired of answering these questions, why don't they just not answer them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azzie View Post
    Here's what I don't get. If the responses to questions like this are always the same, and they're sick of answering them, why don't the people who pick which questions get asked at live letters/fanfest just go "Oh. Parser question." Then throw it over their shoulder and pick a new one?

    Don't get me wrong, I'd like a parser too. But if the team are tired of answering these questions, why don't they just not answer them?
    Because it's a recurring request from the players dedicated enough to go to things like FanFest. They know that there is a discord between their wants and those of the hardcore playerbase, and discounting it out of hand will make them go to other games faster.
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    Which will happen first?

    1 - addon support
    2 - open world Ifrit
    3 - new egis

    Place your bets
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    I remember Yoshi-P literally tried to walk out of a Q&A when someone asked if a meter could be included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LystAP View Post
    I remember Yoshi-P literally tried to walk out of a Q&A when someone asked if a meter could be included.
    If you're talking about the Q&A during Fanfest in Frankfurt, they said they didn't want to add a parser because it would cause more tension within the community. The problem with the answer is it was given around the time Zurvan EX (skip soar) and Diadem 2.0 (AFKing before duty completion with no vote kick option and EM able to go to crap with one player's actions) were released.

    They said if they made it personal only, people would just ask for you to tell them your numbers, and the meter would be reverse-engineered to yield numbers for everyone. You can already ask for numbers with SSS and any tricks that told you other players' numbers would only be available on PC, where everyone already parses.

    They could simply add a personal parser and keep the rules for parsing they have in place now: No posting or commenting on the numbers of others, even if they lie when asked to give them.

    A damage meter will eventually be added, it's just a matter of when.
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    His response was a very clear, in-English "NO."

    He then explained that while they could do it, and even if they made it so it only personally showed your numbers to you, it would only be a matter of time before players reverse engineer it (a TOS violation) and start misusing it.

    It might not seem like it at times, but he and the devs know EXACTLY who they're dealing with.

    As for the OP, if you're THAT concerned about your performance, learn the basics first, consult a player who's well known for playing that job well, practice and perfect your rotation and skill usage/timing, and you won't have anything to worry about.
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    Seriously though, Yoshida really should give this another look since console players are at disvantage and playing in the dark, without knowing how they measure up to their party.

    I'll be moving to the PS4 for the expansion and it'll suck to learn new rotations without knowing how well I'm doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    Seriously though, Yoshida really should give this another look since console players are at disvantage and playing in the dark, without knowing how they measure up to their party.

    I'll be moving to the PS4 for the expansion and it'll suck to learn new rotations without knowing how well I'm doing.
    You don't need a parser for that. Groups require group effort in order to run efficient, and you've played long enough to know when this is/isn't happening. When a group gets a clear with relative ease, you can be assured that you and your party are performing optimally, and the reverse is true as well. A parser puts a number on your performance, and this number doesn't tell everything. A parser helps a player improve very much the same way a step counter helps a person lose weight.

    If you want to know how well you did/are doing, I recommend taking a video and then view it. You will see everything you did well, along with your mistakes, and things you can improve on. You will be able to see the performances of your party as well. If your DPS is down because the tank spun the boss, the video will show that. A personal parser will not.

    I don't really play DPS jobs and definitely don't raid with them, so I know it is difficult for me to relate to the numbers obsession. I still care about causing as much damage as possible when doing DPS of any kind, and I know that if I am well-geared and optimizing rotations, I am meeting my own DPS requirements for the instance. If I looked at parser results afterwards, it would only confirm what I already know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    -snip-
    Quick sidenote: not a feature of any parser itself (that I know of anyway), FFLogs (besides being a leaderboard of sorts) does give you all sorts of secondary data like "DoT Uptime", "% of Total Damage X Ability Did", "Damage Taken That Was Avoidable" etc which are also useful review tools made possible only by parsing the data of the fight.

    Static leader uploaded all the time back when I ran in one in Midas and it was very helpful review info.
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