Dam. meter

[dragonseth07]

will already let you clear content so why worry about it.

Sorry for the awkward snip, but this highlights the issue perfectly.

All you care about is getting the clear. That's cool. All you want is the minimum. But, you should "worry about it" for the sake of your team.

We are a team when we are doing content together. That means that we need to work together and all play our best. You wouldn't tolerate someone half-assing it in any other team activity, so why should a video game be different?

[Khemorex]

Sorry for the awkward snip, but this highlights the issue perfectly.

All you care about is getting the clear. That's cool. All you want is the minimum. But, you should "worry about it" for the sake of your team.

We are a team when we are doing content together. That means that we need to work together and all play our best. You wouldn't tolerate someone half-assing it in any other team activity, so why should a video game be different?

well that purely depends on the raid groups rules and what they want to achieve ^^ , just because someone isnt using a parser dosnt mean they are idiots who cant play at all ^^

i for myself care for a group where everyone can have fun ^^ well each to theyre own :P


but pls just stop with this kind of assumings :P

[Orbiaus]

@Orbiaus

You can practice rotations without a parser and when you're able to optimize your rotation usually you'll see that you're not chocking with cool downs. It's a matter of experimenting and it's a very fun part of the game. People may use parsers to minmax numbers but figuring out a good rotation will already let you clear content so why worry about it.

I know rotations but I don't know my numbers. There isn't much feedback for optimal ones. Everyone just uses the popular ones from people who parse! It's a damage per second class. Knowing my own personal dps is needed. Everyone I know who used one improved greatly, it puts us who don't at a disadvantage.

[Arrius]

Just don't drag the entire game into the DPS meter black hole of douchebagness.

We already got various levels of douchebagness present, and that's through the laziness/do not care attitude of players on NA/EU servers that don't put in a commendable effort of playing their job correctly, using the pretense "I pay to play my way!" in groups and validate themselves through it.

Why should I bend my back over regarding performance when someone just spams ruin II all day long without anything else, invalidating everything the group was working for? With a official damage meter, for instance, everyone would see the issue and I could grab that player on the scruff and give them a choice, or face the boot.

It might be their 15$, but the other 45/105$ will disagree with them in the end.

[Llan]

We already got various levels of douchebagness present, and that's through the laziness/do not care attitude of players on NA/EU servers that don't put in a commendable effort of playing their job correctly, using the pretense "I pay to play my way!" in groups and validate themselves through it.

Why should I bend my back over regarding performance when someone just spams ruin II all day long without anything else, invalidating everything the group was working for? With a official damage meter, for instance, everyone would see the issue and I could grab that player on the scruff and give them a choice, or face the boot.

It might be their 15$, but the other 45/105$ will disagree with them in the end.

If you can tell someone is just spamming Ruin II you can talk to them or remove them right? I mean, if you're able to notice that without a parser then you don't need one. That's the thing. lol

Plus this kind of situation is so rare honestly that I don't see the benefit. :/

[Khemorex]

"game breaking " lol , well the game is still running without one :P and i can kill mobs without it to and heal to , so no it works fine :P ^^

[Ceasaria]

Yoshi will add something to help player to know their DPS, maybe a very light version of a parser, or something else.

[Orbiaus]

Can people please give me a list of cons for a personal parser (Only you can see your damage numbers) and explain in detail how it can be abused? All I hear is about a public one.

[Llan]

Can people please give me a list of cons for a personal parser (Only you can see your damage numbers) and explain in detail how it can be abused? All I hear is about a public one.

All you hear is about public ones because that was the main topic.
I understand your interest in a personal parser but as I said not everyone needs it as well so you could, potentially, get the third party one and use it at your leisure to optimize. ^^