Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
Yeah yeah I get it you're like totally awesome... there... your customary ego feeding... so you can feel good about yourself.
Absolutely uncalled for. Do you think this sort of behavior is going to get people here to take you seriously and agree with you, much less the game's developers?

Now back to reality...
Honestly I don't know... Nothing happen... we were stuck there... nothing moved... nothing destroyed us...

Either the mechanic is broken if it can't kill you... (which is probable given we were level i240)...
It's quite possible that some mechanics that could one-shot people "back in the day" can no longer do so because the maximum damage was set to 9,999. An example of this would be King Behemoth's Ecliptic Meteor in LotA. If you are a WAR with 10,000 or higher HP, you can survive that attack without having to stand behind the comets.

Be that as it may, you could have just died and reset. Stepping into the center during the add phase will still kill you. Plus, I believe that phase is a DPS check, and if you don't meet it, the fight will still progress into the next phase. Although, as for what happens (massive damage or just instant death), I can't really say.

Even overgeared, Coil still has mechanics that can result in a wipe. Something that I rather enjoy because it means you still have to pay attention, and not just slam your face on the keyboard and clear it.

Or... *shock*.. *boggle*

The content was not designed to be run at level 60. Ergo... you probably need to be 50th level or things like that will happen...
I mean, that makes sense. Considering Coil was designed to be, and released as, the raid tier when the level cap was 50, and the max item level you could have by the end of ARR was only i130. So it would make sense that level 60 players in i240+ gear will be OP for the content. However, that doesn't make some of the fights (or their mechanics) trivial. Ignore enough of them, and you can still wipe.

And WHY is it incredibly difficult to run it at 50th level?

Whoa!! DuDE!! No one queues for it so you can't get a full 8 man group... what a frigging concept... one would think this is easy to understand...
I don't understand why the concept of "Use the Party Finder to get a group together" is such a foreign concept for people. That's what it's there for. Make use of it instead of just queuing via DF for content that others are not focused on running, and then complain when the queue doesn't pop. Want a faster queue? Use Party Finder.

So either make it level 50 appropriate... for THIS day and age... or bump it up to level 60 so we can get queues again...
If you want to be "level 50 appropriate", go grab some gear that just meets the minimum ilvl for each turn, and queue in (using that mystical thing called Party Finder to get your group together).

Redesigning Coil to be "level 60 appropriate" doesn't guarantee people will queue for it via Duty Finder anyway. Consider Thordan Ex and Sephirot Ex before the Raid Finder was introduced. DF queues took forever because those fights were not easily PUG-able. And really, they still aren't, but to a lesser degree than before. So, people would just put up Party Finders instead. If Coil was redesigned, it could very well be the same, considering that it was designed to be the Alexander Savage of ARR.

(Even with all the current Savage raids and Ex primals in DF--excluding Zurvan--people still tend to use Party Finder anyways.)

You know... like the ones in Alexander... Void Ark... Mhach... Dun Scaith.... heck even Crystal Tower...
Considering all of those are, in some way, used for current end-game progression (gear augmentation and relic quest, specifically), it would make sense that people are queuing up for them. Alexander gives i250 gear for those that just want to bridge the gap between a lower ilvl and a (semi) more current one, and some of the stats on the Prototype Alexandian gear are better than Shire. Void Ark, Weeping City, and Dun Scaith are all required to get the items you need to augment Shire gear, and Dun Scaith drops i260 gear. Crystal Tower is used for the weekly "Gift of the Archmagus" quest to give you an Aether Oil if you don't want to spend 700 Lore on it. And those are used for the 210-230 Anima step.

Compare these to Coil, and you don't really have a ground to stand on, because it's not a fair comparison. Coil is not used for current progression, but for other reasons such as Poetic bonus, glamour, the amazing story, tank mount farming, or just to challenge yourself. People are less likely to spend time focusing on that, and more time focusing on gearing up for Stormblood. Especially with the release date being less than two months away.