Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[HyoMinPark]

The instakill mechanic hosed up and wasn't powerful enough to kill us, so it locked up and stranded us there... doing exactly what you just claimed would be just fine... ie... going in at level 60.

The phase would have pushed in 2-3 minutes after the Cube, Sphere, and Egg show up anyways. It's a DPS-check. If that didn't kill you, well then congratulations. You survived and can continue the fight. If you wanted to just reset, all you had to do was walk into the center where the boss was hidden/just hanging out. That is instant death. T11 probably also has an enrage, so you could have just waited for that, which is usually 11-13 minutes into the fight. Either way, you weren't "stuck" there.

Of course, if the mechanics had been done properly, then none of this would have been an issue. Still have to pay attention; even at 60.

[ErryK]

There is always a way to die more or less quickly in a raid fight...
T1: Stand in front of Caudecus and let him get damage stacks.
T2: Enrage.
T4: Let the enemies wail on you.
T5: Wall.
T6: Stand in briars.
T7: Screw up with voices or stand in front of Melusine.
T8: Trigger towers at the same time to force an enrage mechanic.
T9: Wall.
T10: Electric ground.
T11: Barofield, Kaliya's cleave, middle of the room during adds phase.
T12: Revelation, adds phase, fountain
T13: Wall

If you cannot find a way to instantaneously die, and can't beat the fight... like what are you even doing at that point?

[Lambdafish]

Yeah I tried that, but as you can see the insta kill mechanics just broke it, and stranded us.

That sounds like a bug, that honestly has nothing to do with your issue. Make a bug report, then learn the fight.

[Vidu]

Yeah no... Don't even go there... he's the one who started in with his "You're not uber enough" bs...
Yeah back in like, the day and stuff, this might have been something "uber" but now... its errm... like 50th level... yeah yesterdays news.

This has nothing to do with any kind of uber... it has to do with the fact you can't que for this one and do it normally anymore.

If it were either updated with level 60 gear, and the challenge level upgraded appropriately you might see people start doing it again. Or just drop it down to the normal 50th level content as its not relevent as some kind of uber top level raid anymore... so... no one does it.

Ergo... if you really want to do this, you're not going to be able to do it in the normal way anymore.

Ie, I just queue up for Alex, or Dun... and hey I'm in. Can't do that with this one until they either upgrade it... or downgrade it...

Take your choice, because right now its neither one... and it sure the heck isn't the top grade raid anymore.

First off: SHE simply said that you wiped because you failed mechanics - I even offered an explantion on how to handle them and analysed what might have went wrong - something, you and your group should have done, to figure out your mistake and fix it. My ego is fine, thank you very much - I dont need to inflate it with video game achievments, but I still enjoy a challenge - something we dont seem to have in common.
I'm not even saying this content is "uber" - I'm saying: This content still has mechanics that you need to deal with properly or it can and will wipe you, even at level 60 - and there is really, really nothing wrong with that. If you dont want to handle mechanics, stick to the 90% of content in the game that are less punishing and leave the challenging content alone for people like me, who prefer to play this game once in a while without the need of netflix on a second screen because its so boring to only have to press 4 buttons in a dungeon again.

I'll tell you again: Doing this content in DF was never the normal way. Doing this content with randoms was never intended. How do I know that? Even back in the day when it got unlocked and was still current content, you couldnt excatly queue for the Final Coil because, guess what: It required you to do so many mechanics that you needed a static for it.
Coil wasnt put into DF because "Now its so easy, everyone can do it!" but to make it more convenient for full groups to queue up for it - instead of having to walk to an NPC, have everyone in the same area and then select which turn you wanted to do.
You're under a big missconception if you believe that Coil was intended to be queued for - its basically the same with todays Toptier content that is in DF but wont pop because people know that PUGs wont be able to handle mechanics.

If the fight really froze, that is, again, a bug - that you can report.
Guess what - bugs and errors happen in a video game! Best fix here is: "Turn it off and on again" - not cry for nerfs...

[KarstenS]

There are so many insta-kill mechanics in the end fights at times that I seriously wonder how people got through this thing with 50th level characters.

Short answer: Learn to play.

Extended answer: Coil was during ARR the most challanging content in the game with the aim to entertain people for a longer time period. Its compareable to Creator Savage. In FF14, this kind of content is designed to challange/entertain average players for around 6 month.

For most people it was alot practising (weeks/month, not hours) till they memorized these fights and finally knew how to handle them.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

You have the very mistaken impression that the fight is broken because it's designed for level 50 but you were there at level 60, and that's just not the issue here. Something that was meant to kill you didn't, and you clearly didn't know enough about the instance to even die right. That's a fault on you and not the design of the content. Sounds to me like you handled the add phase wrong and (very likely) the Sphere merged with the Egg, and you didn't know you had to be melee range to actually do damage, nor did you know the merged adds were designed to be buffed to near-invincibility - a punishment for failing the mechanic. Again, that's a fault of your not knowing and not the design of the content.

There's plenty of guides out there. I suggest reading up/watching before you go back in.

[AsahinaMyLove]

Learn the mechanics and git gud.

The whole "I can't clear this by smashing the keyboard with my head pls nerf qq" must stop.

According to your "answer", You didnt read the Post of the owner at all! <.<

[LineageRazor]

If you want to run Coil unsynced, do it on Tuesday after the reset. That's when everyone's Wondrous Tails books reset, and folks are looking for ways to fill it in quickly. Even T5/T9/T13 fights fill relatively quickly on Tuesdays! Just put up a party finder with the message "Unsync for WT", and your party should fill in under ten minutes, no matter which Coil you're doing.

As you noted, though, even unsynced some Coil fights will nail you with instant death mechanics. The fights most notable for this are T5 and T9, but you can also run into trouble in T8 and T11. For those fights, study up on the fight ahead of time so you know what to expect. Chances are good that most or all of your pick-up members will be familiar with the fights, so as long as you do your part, they will do theirs.

[Neri]

That sounds like a bug, that honestly has nothing to do with your issue. Make a bug report, then learn the fight.

This really.

And please, stop with the "..." to every sentence that you use.

[Leanna]

According to your "answer", You didnt read the Post of the owner at all! <.<

What I did not realize... There are so many insta-kill mechanics in the end fights at times that I seriously wonder how people got through this thing with 50th level characters. This thing wipes parties of 60th level unsynced.

But that's kinda useless given that the only thing you'd go there for now is storyline.... but I do see now why I sat in the queue for so long and no one went in. If this is that hard unsynced... why would anyone in their right mind do it at level 50.

If you're going to leave Coils of Bahamut the way it is now... just update the thing for level 60th gear and being that the thing is already designed to wipe i240+ parties due to the insta kill mechanics in it...

That or drop the insta-kill mechanics so going in unsynced will at least allow us to play it for story purposes.

"qq I want to ignore mechanics because I'm level 60 and i don't want to take the effort to do it properly qq pls nerf qq"

Learn how to do the mechanics and all the problems will vanish.