SE Please add jump and swiming

[Jynx]

you are not exempt, you chose not to be involved. i could use same analogy because i don't want to pay for airship ride i should be exempt from exploring? boss fights that could be on air ships? see my point? just because i got a fear of heights does not mean the whole world should stay on the ground with me.

Using the lame excuse to justify a idea as "Well you don't have to use it" is the most lazy defense I've ever seen.

Why would someone just lay down and accept that half the game is cut off to them because of a silly mechanic? Most rational people would use it wether they wanted too or not, but somehow it's taboo to ask that it not be implemented becuase you don't like it.

People are allowed to ask for anything they want, but not allowed to ask to not have something...awesome.

[Shipp]

Using the lame excuse to justify a idea as "Well you don't have to use it" is the most lazy defense I've ever seen.

Why would someone just lay down and accept that half the game is cut off to them because of a silly mechanic? Most rational people would use it wether they wanted too or not, but somehow it's taboo to ask that it not be implemented becuase you don't like it.

People are allowed to ask for anything they want, but not allowed to ask to not have something...awesome.

Except like they stated, you aren't cut off from it. You're choosing to segregate yourself because you think the game should be tailor-made to your taste.

[Jennestia]

Except like they stated, you aren't cut off from it. You're choosing to segregate yourself because you think the game should be tailor-made to your taste.

..Which is also what the other side of the argument is basically stating, thus why we just let the developers do their thing and if they succeed or fail, it's how it is in this industry.

[Shipp]

..Which is also what the other side of the argument is basically stating, thus why we just let the developers do their thing and if they succeed or fail, it's how it is in this industry.

It's really not though, because the community voted and thus it's been stated that it will be added. I don't care one way or the other, but giving the option to jump allows players who want that feature to be happy, and players who don't want it don't have to jump.

[Jennestia]

It's really not though, because the community voted and thus it's been stated that it will be added. I don't care one way or the other, but giving the option to jump allows players who want that feature to be happy, and players who don't want it don't have to jump.

It is basically the same:

Side 1: "Add it because it will make the game better and it's standard with MMORPGs. I don't like feeling glued to the ground."

Side 2: "Don't add it because (insert reason(s)) and I personally don't like the feature because (reason)."

Both sides are basically wanting XIV to fit their taste.

[Jynx]

It is basically the same:

Side 1: "Add it because it will make the game better and it's standard with MMORPGs. I don't like feeling glued to the ground."

Side 2: "Don't add it because (insert reason(s)) and I personally don't like the feature because (reason)."

Both sides are basically wanting XIV to fit their taste.

Imagine that, both sides want something because it effect how they enjoy the game? I see nothing wrong with the statements either. It is very true though that it leads to rather circular arguements.

The only thing I hate is when someone acts like their idea is the defacto "Better" idea when in truth both sides are as right as the other, it's just a matter of opinion and tastes.

[Onidemon]

Imagine that, both sides want something because it effect how they enjoy the game? I see nothing wrong with the statements either. It is very true though that it leads to rather circular arguements.

The only thing I hate is when someone acts like their idea is the defacto "Better" idea when in truth both sides are as right as the other, it's just a matter of opinion and tastes.

The fact is that they WILL add it and hopefully they will be smart enough to use it well. And i'm sure you and Jennestia will enjoy it just as much as everyone else.

[Onidemon]

..Which is also what the other side of the argument is basically stating, thus why we just let the developers do their thing and if they succeed or fail, it's how it is in this industry.

As far as SE is concerned they will add it. Yoshi-P said many times he personally wants it in the game and then said that it moved to lower priority and now that we know about 2.0 it probably means it is a 2.0 feature. New engine = new possibilities.

Honestly when i saw the producer's letter and saw they wanted to add jump, i was like "this game is saved!" and was sure everyone would be thrilled, just to find out a bunch of threads in the forums begging not to add it with arguments like "it ruins my immersion!" and i'm like "it ruins your what? seriously?"....

[irongripz]

..Which is also what the other side of the argument is basically stating, thus why we just let the developers do their thing and if they succeed or fail, it's how it is in this industry.

No it not at all and your assumption is asinine. with out jump we have NO OPTION. with it you HAVE A OPTION. see the difference? judging by all you post you probably wont.

there is only one side trying to limit them options. thus only one side tailoring the game to a single persons idea, the other side is open to different options.

course there is the third group that you forgot about, those who want a half jump that is more like how you use open does now.

[Jynx]

No it not at all and your assumption is asinine. with out jump we have NO OPTION. with it you HAVE A OPTION. see the difference? judging by all you post you probably wont.

Is that really a "Option" though? Personally I don't think it's much of one. If we want to play the whole game we have no other option than to jump. So I wouldn't call it a option in how you seem to view it, we have to limit outselves to opt out of a choice.