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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Someone has to make a decision.

    . . .Someone takes charge, steps up, and initiates a solution for the betterment of the whole.

    Consensus.. there is no consensus. Players have made their choices. You all simply need to make yours.
    There's stepping up to take charge of a situation, then there's forcing a decision on others. Similarly, there's also taking charge of yourself and your own actions. THAT speaks of initiative far more than simply being the decisive person in the moment. It's safe to say no one's ever going to force me into a type of run I don't want to do. However I won't pitch a fit and demand things go my way, or force others into it either. You want to speedrun and I don't? No prob. Let me make room for someone else who might be all for it. Everyone wants chests but you wanna race through? Sorry man, no hard feelings if you want to leave and find a group more suited to your aims. All of this "oh just go with it" talk breeds resentment and avoidance of duties and/or players. Being civil and trying to communicate is THAT hard? Treating other players as you'd like to be treated isn't possible? Seriously?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    I mean, I took one look at how the game handled and what the abilities were like and figured it would be pretty terrible. Actually trying it confirmed my suspicions. I'll do it to get gear, but it's really not enjoyable.
    There's a wide spectrum of questions I'd want to ask, but it sounds to me like you went in already intent to dislike it and saw what you wanted to see (or perhaps didn't see what you wanted to see), and thus validated your already pre-formed opinion of it. Conjecture on my part, and it's lacking supporting statements, yes. But at least you tried it.
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    There's a wide spectrum of questions I'd want to ask, but it sounds to me like you went in already intent to dislike it and saw what you wanted to see (or perhaps didn't see what you wanted to see), and thus validated your already pre-formed opinion of it. Conjecture on my part, and it's lacking supporting statements, yes. But at least you tried it.
    I mean, this isn't my first MMO. I have a really good idea of what I like and don't like in PVP, so unless there's some truly novel PVP format (and this game doesn't have one), I don't actually need to try it to have a really reliable idea of whether I'll like it or not.
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    I mean, this isn't my first MMO. I have a really good idea of what I like and don't like in PVP, so unless there's some truly novel PVP format (and this game doesn't have one), I don't actually need to try it to have a really reliable idea of whether I'll like it or not.
    Yeah, it doesn't take a genius to look at the way you have to earn PvP-necessary abilities over time (on top of the usual gear disparities), combined with the rather slow combat overall, to come to the conclusion that PvP is a mess.
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