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    Talraen's Avatar
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    Ryelle Galashin
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    You seem to be pretty informed on the game and I would really like to know why the primals started going with these raid heavy mechanics instead of just more individual effort fights. Before sep there was nothing I recalled that required nearly as much coordination before it with the tethers and the towers or the blue puddle. And I would say sep is def not harder than say even ramuh extreme which yea had its dps checks but wasnt something you had to have voice chat for.

    Same thing with all the stacking in Sophia and doing everything as one unit like these arent raids then why the hell are the mechanics like this it really pisses me off. You can still make content challening without putting so much on team work when most people will be doing this content with randoms because they dont have statics are friends to do things with. These hw primals had way to much grouping and way to many if one person screws up everyone's dead mechanics which thus feeds the no bonus community instead of having them based on what one does as an individual in the group.
    Ramuh Extreme required a lot of coordination to make sure terror was consistently cleansed. It didn't require voice chat, but it certainly helped. And the same is true for Sophia: everyone can learn the mechanics, at which point voice chat isn't really necessary. I haven't done Sephirot or Zurvan extreme, but the other HW extremes seemed pretty much on par with ARR's mechanical complexity to me.
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    Ramuh Extreme required a lot of coordination to make sure terror was consistently cleansed. It didn't require voice chat, but it certainly helped. And the
    I do not recall such a stacking mechanic in arr anywhere, and you may not need a voice chat for sophia but it is punishing if the stacking mechanics arent done properly. In sep if one person screws up tethers its pretty much a reset, in zurvan if one person screws up soar or two then its a done deal. I dont see this anywhere in the other primals , there are things you have to do in shiva extreme like spreading etc but three people could die and you can still recover. Leviathan there is no such group activity at all, not even in titan extreme its all on individual effort, but when you put in mechanics where one person can ruin the whole run you will get many parties with the no bonus or dont join us mentality.
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